Re: New impoved facts part 1v02


"Sue..." <suzysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Dr ***" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
> | > Which axis do you feel is imaginary ?
> |
> | There must be an imaginary time axis to represent the clock that
> | *goes* as it is *judged*. Otherwise it is inconstistant with
rules
> | applied to other paths.
>
> Sorry I don't really understand that because as far as I can see with
the
> rotating pulse example that I gave you have two real observers with a
real
> clocks that sync up in one frame each that separate from that
collapsed
> state, don't try to communicate although they can and then evaluate
what has
> happen after the conditions have collapsed back to one frame. No
imaginary
> time axis that I can see, point to it. You may be confusing my
example with
> SR ?

SR (or some related work) is the only basis you have offered that
clocks
should be affected by motion and you have offered no basis that
clocks measure or influence time.

Ah! clocks don't influence time the process rate of the dielectric
influences the clocks.

The only absolute defiinition of time
that
I know of, is related to a fixed quantiy of mass or energy fuel
necessary
to move a mass or energy a fixed distance.

You are not prepard to except the halflife deecay as a indication of time
then?

You have offered no
basis why this should vary from place to place,

Changing dilectric

time to time or IRF to
IRF..

Bit late just driven 200 miles cant think of that and whats IRF
>
> |
> | >
> | > If you are referring to my rotational pulse sketch then from my
pov
> there
> | > was no imaginary
> | > axis as from my understanding the moving muon actually do decay
more
> slowly
> | > than the reference ones.
> | I more trust the Red Queen's understanding. :o)
> | There is plenty of literature that could give you such an idea.
> | If a muon is moving wrt something close, wouldn't some good ole
> | common sense suggest the disturbance would tend to make it less
stable and
> | shorter lived?
> |
> | > This coupled with my understanding that structures acutely do
distort
> along
> | > the axis of motion
> |
> | Indeed! I have motion wrt the cosmic particles rushing past my
body.
> | I refuse to be photographed standing becauese it makes me short
> | and fat.
> | .
>
> You have fogotten the common dilectric so because you are bigger
than them
> you have the say about who is short and fat as they are traveling
through
> your dilectric so you can safely say that they are shot and fat and
you are
> nice and slim and sexy. :-) That must be a winning agument with a
woman ?:-)
> So call those photographers back :-)

If I move wrt the atmosphere (common dielectric? )

Yes. in it ?
then all
King's hairdressers and all the King's kin can't get the
photographers to ever try again.

Why not?

>
> |
> | > and that this distortion can lead to their resonance
> |
> | Well... Sometimes my ears will ring if I stand up too quick. :-)
>
> That must be you coming back from being short and fat sitting down to
slim
> and sexy standing up :-)
> |
> | > frequencies being reduced and so reducing energy loss leading to
> extended
> | > life span, makes me very convinced that motion leads to extended
life
> span.
> | >
> | > | The closest physical meaning we can give to TIME is when we
> | > | show the conservation of mass and energy when we displace
> | > | mass or enegy.
> | >
> | > Very true but we can define different time rates and times by the
rate
> of
> | > mass or energy displacement
> |
> | Or you could define an imaginary axis like the rest of the
> | civilized world.
>
> No I refuse, the rest of the uncivilized world is incorrect

Indeed! I have seen this myself!
<<
He found that after they had been running for a while, effects began to
occur that were identical to what have come to be regarded
as poltergeist phenomena.

Objects of any material levitated into the air and hovered there,
or moved about and then fell;
fires started in unlikely places around the building;
a mirror smashed at a distance of 80 feet away;
metal distorted and broke;
water spontaneously swirled in containers;
lights appeared in the air and then vanished;
metal became white-hot but did not burn any surrounding materials;
and so on."

On one video recording a 19-pound bronze cylinder is seen to rise
majestically into the air, at a distance of 80 feet from the centre of
the
device, but, incredibly, Hutchison tells us: ... >>
http://www.keelynet.com/energy/gestalt.htm

Ye but the current can burn your brain out so stick to the volts and keep
the amps at minimum and you might survive, perhaps, if that what you want to
play with. Stick to physics its not so wild and uncontrollable unless you
want to end up a Hittler..

and my axis's
> are all real because they deal with their frame only to get imaginary
axis
> you have to have got yourself stuck in one frame or you are trying to
> communicate across frames from a preferred frame. When you become
civilized
> you will understand :-)

> |
> | >
> | > |
> | > | Unless the decay of a muon has some intrinsic relationship
> | > | to acceleration, why should we accept them as any kind of
> | > | time-piece at all ?
> | >
> | > Because its a case of energy dispacement from a measured value at
a
> point to
> | > another value at another point,
> |
> | I must have missed that.
>
> Energy decay is a slope plotted against time
Or is it the other way 'round?
Hmmm y = mx + b

Reveal your notation but round the back of the bike sheds:-)

>
> | >
> | > |
> | > | Oscillating stable masses make good clocks. Muons aren't
> | > | stable.
> | >
> | > They decay on a nice stable time/charge curve in any uniform
dielectric
> :-)
> | > |
> | > | The Gore/Selleri paper seems to make a good case for
non-isotropic
> | > | SOL but I find no argument therein that clocks, or even muon
decay is
> | > | affected by motion.
> | > | Quoting:
> | > | "...very near the muon which **looks** constantly at rest to
him;"
> | > | In the lab frame we doppler correct what we see to acertain
what
> | > | is actually happening.
> | >
> | > If it looks constanly at rest then thats a reference ' looking
> constantly at
> | > rest it decay so'
> | > Looking moving it decays at so and so.
> |
> | Sew and on and sew on.
>
> Ive a pair of socks that could do with darning any good?
>
> | >
> | > |
> | > | I would be curious to know what list of possibllites the
translators
> of
> | > | SR had when they choose the word "judge" in preferece to words
> | > | like appear or look.
> | >
> | > Dont know which bits this applies to as I read and forget it
> in............
> |
> | Convennt "senior moment" ???
> | No habla engelse senior... mucho dinero por favor.
> |
> That will be £100 thanks but I am still deaf :-) and I still cant
officially
> understand Spanish :-)

Don't worry 'bout it. There are a few world *leaders* that can't
speak the native tongue. ;-)

> | >
> | > |
> | > | We don't jail people because they "appear" guilty but if the
original
> | >
> | > Yes we do:-)
> | >
> | > | German uses "judge" where the word "appears" is more
appropriate,
> | > | then the good professor should have spent a little time behind
bars
> | > | for being a bit too sleight of pen.
> | >
> | > Just advertising blurb:-) as it gives a better feeling of
confidence in
> what
> | > your reading.
> | Ahemm... It give false confidence... *just* at the moment the
reader's
> | skeptical spot should start itching.
>
> Old Albert was a sneaky old Turk but think of his situation, and you
don't
> get your point across by lying down in front of the steamroller. His
main
> point was ' its all relative ' and much of the rest was flannel and
window
> dressing. Think of the times he was in and it becomes clearer.

Yep... no complaints 'bout the effectivness of his sales presentation.
.... now If you give my friends 2 trillion today, they'll make sure you
have medicine-monday on tooosday.
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Sue...



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