Re: New impoved facts part 1v03


"Harry" <harald.vanlintel@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Dr ***" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Dr ***" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Of Time, Vacuum, Velocity, Gravity and the Speed of light. Simplified
> >
> > One Second of time/duration is defined as a radiation count coresponding
> to
> > the
> > transition between the energy levels 2p10 and 5d5 of the krypton-86 atom
> > of 4.37402759 * 10E13 cycles of krypton-86 atom in vacuum at ~sea level.
> >
> > One Meter of lengh is defined as 1650736.73 wavelenghths in vacuum at
~sea
> > level of the radiation coresponding to the transition between the
energy
> > levels
> > 2p10 and 5d5 of the krypton-86 atom.
> >
> > A vacuum is defined as a medium with a permitivity of 8.854*10E-12 F
> > mE-1 or e0 and permeability of 4pi * 10E -7 H mE-1 or u0 with the field
> > state
> > being ~ sea level.
> >
> > The following are simple provable or logically deducible facts
> >
> > a) The speed of light (SOL) is measured constant in vacuum and also in
any
> > given medium. Its speed in vacuum is given the designator c.
> > b) From a) we can also state that the velocity of the vacuum
> > is zero with respect to(wrt) the light under measurement at the place of
> > measurement and is assigned the letters vv otherwise our measurment of
> > the SOL may have an offset which may need to be calculated in,
> > in some cases.
> h
> Surely you are joking. Right?
> d
> Well I could be but I'm not.:-) I'm just stating the bloody obvious that
all
> measurement needs a reference base. This point seems to be missed by some
> posters to this group. I hope you are not one of those posters ?
h
No, I could not believe that you seriously would present an in this context
obvious logical error as "improved fact".
The error: you assumed that what is measured must correspond to reality as
depicted from your model, unaffected by the phenomena.
d
Uh! Thats a nice piece of fantasy if ever I read one :-)
Forget about the phenomena for a moment I am just for a moment referring to
the process of measurement, any measurement.
Any measurement has at least two components its base and its value do you
have a problem with this?





As a matter of fact: in the only self-consistent model of this type that I
know of, the measurements *are* affected by the phenomena.
On top of that, even a) is incorrect: if that medium isn't vacuum, the SOL
is measured to be a function of the speed of the medium as well.

> > c) The SOL is independent of the velocity of the source as concluding
> > otherwise would require the SOL to be dependant on the velocity of the
> > source which experiments and logic have concluded it is not.
> h
> What logic? Now I'm sure, you *are* joking! :-)
> d
> I'm glad you are so easily amused, I wish I was you must have a hilarous
> time I guess it must be that you have a different meaning to the word
logic
> than I have.:-)

Likely, or perhaps you meant logical deduction based on experiments. If not,
maybe you want to explain what logic without experiments concludes that the
SOL is independent of the velocity of the source...

> I have sniped the rest in case you suffer a heart attack from laughing to
> much. Thanks for the reply.
>
> Dr ***

You're welcome!
Harald




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