Re: New impoved facts part 1v03

Correction:
"Harry" <harald.vanlintel@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Dr ***" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Dr ***" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > "Dr ***" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > > > Of Time, Vacuum, Velocity, Gravity and the Speed of light.
Simplified
> > > >
> > > > One Second of time/duration is defined as a radiation count
> coresponding
> > > to
> > > > the
> > > > transition between the energy levels 2p10 and 5d5 of the krypton-86
> atom
> > > > of 4.37402759 * 10E13 cycles of krypton-86 atom in vacuum at ~sea
> level.
> > > >
> > > > One Meter of lengh is defined as 1650736.73 wavelenghths in vacuum
at
> > ~sea
> > > > level of the radiation coresponding to the transition between the
> > energy
> > > > levels
> > > > 2p10 and 5d5 of the krypton-86 atom.
> > > >
> > > > A vacuum is defined as a medium with a permitivity of 8.854*10E-12
F
> > > > mE-1 or e0 and permeability of 4pi * 10E -7 H mE-1 or u0 with the
> field
> > > > state
> > > > being ~ sea level.
> > > >
> > > > The following are simple provable or logically deducible facts
> > > >
> > > > a) The speed of light (SOL) is measured constant in vacuum and also
in
> > > > any given medium. Its speed in vacuum is given the designator c.
> > > > b) From a) we can also state that the velocity of the vacuum
> > > > is zero with respect to(wrt) the light under measurement at the
place
> of
> > > > measurement and is assigned the letters vv otherwise our measurment
of
> > > > the SOL may have an offset which may need to be calculated in,
> > > > in some cases.
> > > h
> > > Surely you are joking. Right?
> > > d
> > > Well I could be but I'm not.:-) I'm just stating the bloody obvious
that
> > all
> > > measurement needs a reference base. This point seems to be missed by
> some
> > > posters to this group. I hope you are not one of those posters ?
>
> > h
> > No, I could not believe that you seriously would present an in this
> context
> > obvious logical error as "improved fact".
> > The error: you assumed that what is measured must correspond to reality
as
> > depicted from your model, unaffected by the phenomena.
>
> > d
> > Uh! Thats a nice piece of fantasy if ever I read one :-)
> > Forget about the phenomena for a moment I am just for a moment referring
> to
> > the process of measurement, any measurement.
> > Any measurement has at least two components its base and its value do
you
> > have a problem with this?
>
> Then correct it to something like:
(but see further!)
> the velocity of light relative to vacuum appears to be c -- and please
make
> clear what you mean with vv as distinguished from c!

On second thought, that's not it. The way PD put it was better although also
not good enough. Reworked:

The local return speed of light through a vacuum is measured to be c
relative to any inertial reference system."
(And now, what is your vv?)

> h
> > As a matter of fact: in the only self-consistent model of this type that
I
> > know of, the measurements *are* affected by the phenomena.
> > On top of that, even a) is incorrect: if that medium isn't vacuum, the
SOL
> > is measured to be a function of the speed of the medium as well.
>
> No reply?
>
> Harald
>
>


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