Re: Alice slays Mad Hatter


"Sue..." <suzysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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d
Do you mean like this?
Neutral
v
e+ : e-

s
If e+ is moved then e- follows after some period deterimed
by the Coulomb coupling and the mass of e - ???
d
Yes, but they may have no measurable mass yet.???
s
But I say neutral isn't neutral.

e+
e+ == e-
e-
d
I say that a perfect vacuum is the best insulator we have got and
to break it down creates a cosmos or getting on that way.
s
Ahhh emmm... Just how long have you espoused this notion?
Ya got lots of back up material I presume ;-)
d
Yes and I'm trying to show you it :-).
The only discharge path for these two charges is a partical.

Neutral
v
e+ : e-
(p)

Like that, show me another path ???

Mind you the perfect vacuum inside a star is under different stress
(Coulomb force) than the one in front of my nose. ??
No I'm not inside a star at the moment:-) well only a little.:-)


s
AETHER floats above AER and is illuminated with
Heavenly light. He's a very bright lad, and even on the
clearest day we only see the merest trace of his
splendor as it filters down to us. At night his mother
NYX draws the curtains and the gloom of EREBUS
descends upon the world. When morning comes, his sister
HEMERA wafts away the murky mists and his radiant glow
is seen again.
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d
LOL
s
I say you need this to test for neutral.
== equals insulator
e+
e+ == e-
e-

d
I say that a perfect vacuum is neutral from the pov of the observer
and that any other measurement is some sort of offset.

s
Well I say it is neutral only when the electrometer is midway
between the charges.
d
The electrometer *is* halfway between the charges if its reading anything
and if you wind up the charge you will end up with no charge and a pile of
carbon :-) end your experiment?
d
In your diagram the insulator being made of particles will break down
before the vacuum and the charges will sneak round the ends
on the surface of the insulator to discharge.
s
I did not say what the insulator is made of. But if you must
know: Zeus and Athena have a tight grip on the charges so they
won't rush into each other's embrace and illuminate the
heavens with the glow of their passion.
d
LOL. What are they standing on to prevent their consummation?
Wait don't tell me its a hard vacuum. Am I right or am I right?

Is that an electrometer ?
http://www.thebakken.org/artif­acts/Henley.htm
Your diagram could possible be seen as one I think.
s
Hmmm.... we agree on something?
We may have to find another topic. ;-)
d
Go for a few more turns if just to amuse me. I do think it will lead
somewhere.
Mind you it might be a place you are steering away from but I do think it
will explain much if not in a quantitative way then definitely in a
qualitative way. You cant give in now the header says you've got to slay
me.)-: I've been looking forward to being slayed for ages :-)

Dr ***
Sue...


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