Re: Alice slays Mad Hatter


"Sue..." <suzysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If you wish to restricte e- and e+ to static charges at 0.511 MeV
seperatly or combined then thats fine by me but as this is not
primarily a quantitive evaluation is it very important ?.
s
It is just safer way to proceed. Less confusion.
d
Just state it and we can perhaps be away. I have now include the
radiation path to the diagram and revised 'words discharge path'
to 'energy tranfer path'.

Neutral
v <- Sue no like :-)
v e+ : e- ^ (fig 1)
(p)
..
r >
Radiation
d
Do the v, ^ and > you have added indicate rotation or motion ??
The v you marked as no like was juat a label for vacuum which was :
s
I call that coupling.
d
And the coupling force would be proportionate to the value of the charge ???

Dipole
^ ++ ^
< ^ --^ < I
++ <----- < ++ I (fig 2)
< v -- v < I
v ++v

s
This I call radiation. as in "radial"
d
Can we agree that radiation is for one cycle is as I have altered fig 2
and that looking from above it would be an expanding ring ?????
d
Post up the bits that you feel are relevent and lets see if they fit

You have not posted up the M * M and C * C bits that you claimed to be
relevent.??????
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http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.g­su.edu/hbase/electric/elefor.h­tml
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.g­su.edu/hbase/grav.html#grav
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s
<< Coulomb's law describes a force of infinite range which
obeys the inverse square law, and is of the same form
as the gravity force. >>
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.g­su.edu/hbase/electric/elefor.h­tml
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.g­su.edu/hbase/grav.html#grav
d
Will look at later but yes I have no disagreement with your abstract
and would also like to add all other forces and events under that
umbrela with some modifications and additions.
I did tell you that that was my direction
way back when I first started posting.:-) so I did warn you.
s
Yes... Lorentz force might require some modification.
d
The e- and e+ could be a section of radiation moving at
c if that sits more easily with you but I think it may be easier to
see how the partical dischages the charge and to discribe
the particals constrution.
s
OK I added some arrows above to show the charges motion to cause
(p) to move to the east.
d
Was this necessary ? but ok if it makes you feel happier but you have know
added rotation which does bring in other factors before we have agrred on
the basics ??.
s
SOL ? I don't think so. Too few charges in
this universe to establish that IMHO.
d
My two charges could be a bit of cosmic ray background radiation. I believe
in
recycling so when I get this sorted, first thing to invent is comic ray to
electric power generator if their seems enough about. Pat me on head for
being green :-) need your relatives cable then :-)
s
Remember, the number of charges setting the permittivity increases
with the square of the radius.
d
Does it indeed and I see we have a problem because you will only deal with
charge down to Electron level perhaps 1.602 * 10E-19 coulombs ???? the
charges I have been thinking of have been sub Electron or the total cosmos
with no particals in it which I now see as you refering to fractional
charges ???? I am trying to see why you feel that the number of charges sets
the permittivity assuming they were not electrons which as far as I can see
we still have to decribe the how and why of ???
No I cant see that polerization etc fits into my model at this level ???
Pehaps its late, nudge me.
s
We will be typing ++++++ and ---- all
week to have enough to say the speed of light. We might draw a circle
around what you have and say it is equal number of + and - charges to
produce the permittivity we expect.
<<
In cgs, the electric susceptibility is defined as the ratio of
polarization P to electric field strength E,
(equation 1)
where is the electric permittivity (Purcell 1985, p. 372). >>
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/ElectricSusceptibility.html

note the use of 4(pi) in the cgs expression. That is the
surface area of fig 2 above.
d
I cant for the life of me see why its pertinent at this stage????
d
You also need my rotational graph to dig deeper than we are at present.
s
I have Greek gods looking over my shoulder so I am OK for now. ;-)
Let's not dig any faster.

I could try to teach a chicken to lay omlettes too,
but I have resigned myself to accept the product in
it's standard package. ;-)
d
This smacks of defeatism to me I'll smack your bum.:-) I am only trying
to describe how chickens work not to alter their behaviour. We'll put
the fancy bits on latter but lets find out how the engine works before
we start the polishing :-)
s
It is like building a fiberglass boat in a mold. The first thing you
do is paint it. The last thing you do is lay the keel. LOL
d
LOL ok then lets say that all these milk bottle smashers have laid the gel
coat so now can we get on to the keel and and structure layers:-)
Dr ***
Sue...




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