Re: New impoved facts part 1v03


"Harry" <harald.vanlintel@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > SNIP
> snip
> > "a) The speed of light (SOL) is measured constant in any given medium"
> > is only correct when the medium is stationary relative to your
measurement
> > frame.
> > d
> > Sorry I had forgotten that I had included a variety of mediums in this
> > posting and for this I will take the punishment of reading what you
where
> > about to point out :-) but if this is what you were going to point out
'is
> > only correct when the medium is stationary relative to your measurement
> > frame.' then how are you going to deal with the vacuum ???? or is this
> frame
> > system only valid in a gas in which you are stationary ????
> h
> The closer the medium is to pure vacuum, the less the deviation: the
"drag"
> is due to the atoms of the medium.
> d
> That has been transparently clear to me for years.
> h
> Thus for vacuum there is no such effect,
> d
> The drag of the vacuum is the fact that the SOL is constant in it.
> h
> and no speed relative to vacuum can be determined (at least in theory, and
> as far as I know).
> d
> Lost your way again the SOL relative to the vacuum is c.
> snip
h
Dr, the only measured speed is relative to material frames of reference!
d
If the velocity of the vacuum that the SOL was being measured in was
different to the velocity of the equipment that it was being measured in
then the SOL would have different value than c. Now I am not saying that
this could not be the case but as most measurements of the SOL are performed
in an earth based lab then if we can assume that the vacuum acquires the
velocity of the nearest matter in it then in the E.lab. the velocity of the
lab, measuring equiment and the vacuum would be zero wrt to the earth.
Dr ***

Harald



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