Re: Coulomb derived gravity


Sue... wrote:
> Sue:
> Coulomb forces are so immensly greater than
> gravity there is no risk is assuming some kind of
> phantom encoding like the balance function from
> that BNL paper that I linked.
>
> Removing Distortions from Charge Balance Functions,
> S. Pratt and S. Cheng
> Phys. Rev. C, 68, 014907 (2003), nucl-th/0303025, [local PDF]
> http://www.keck.ucsf.edu/~chengs/research/distortions.pdf
> http://www.keck.ucsf.edu/~chengs/research.html
>
> Ken S. Tucker:
> I've tried various *models* in the
> past with limited success, but enough to wet
> the appetite. To one of those models I applied
> Einstein's Law (Guv = kTuv) and found it was
> very nearly a solution.
> So then I figured - why not base a solution on
> AE's Law. That actually makes things much easier,
> because that way I don't need to import my own
> prejudices into the model.
> Usually in GR one may just use the simple
> Guv=0, but when solving for a naked charge couple
> "a" and "b", the full Guv=kTuv is needed, and
> that's interesting, because it requires a new
> way of looking at fields, they need to be relative.
> That's because the energy density "Tuv" arises
> from the product of the Electric Fields (static
> conditions) of "a" and "b" i.e.
> T_00 == E(a)*E(b) == (a/r^2)*(b/r^2)
> with "r" being radius. You can check for yourself
> that the *dimensionality* is,
> T_00 = p/r^3 where "p" is system energy given by
> p = a*b/r as is classical.
> BTW that's the simplest example I know of that
> requires the use of Guv=kTuv.
>
> Sue:

Thank you Sue, I'd like to respond.

Our *experimental standards* today exceed those
imposed in 1800+. Coulumb *imposed*,

F= q1*q2/r

and said it doesn't matter if F is repulsive or
negative, the're EXACTLY OPPOSITE to the decimal,
0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.

and take my word for that.

Well little kenny tucker has a fit, and get's
expelled (again). He was regarded as insane
when he questioned that equation.

By today's standards, applied to Coulombs
equation, I think it would be fair to examine
the EXACT opposite magnitude of Coulomb force,
to test that equality and assertion.

Tucker finds the differential accounts for
gravitation, and shows why using GR.

While I do regret AE was not inclined to
explain GR, and for similiar reasons I'm
not, there is good reason to unify EM and
gravitation.

Thanks and Regards
Ken S. Tucker

> > If neither of these work, then you [Dr***] can apply
> > your differential aging algorithm and we'll see
> > if older charges are stronger or kinkyier than
> > the younger ones. ;-)
> > Seriously....(arragh!) a better understanding of
> > how moving Coulomb fields maifest themselves
> > as magnetism might add quite a bit to that picture.
>
> Ken S. Tucker:
> Yup, consider a pair of static charges in one
> frame, then analyse that system relative to
> one moving past it.
>
> Sue:
> > Ya see, It isn't to expensive to drag a few old
> > magnetron magnets into the lab but the building
> > owner gets all bent outta shape when we knock
> > down a wall to put a few planets on the bench.
>
>
> Ken S. Tucker:
> Ha, if you ever get the inclination, I'd suggest
> you analyse the poop out of a naked charge couple.
>
> Once you do one couple thoroughly you've done them
> all, because it sums linearly. For example consider
> just the Earth and Moon, the number of attractive
> and repulsive pairs of charges coupling the Earth
> to the Moon is exactly equal (assuming electrostatic
> neutrality).
>
>
> Sue:
>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/4199bb83bcde71ed?dmode=source
>
>
> JEFFREY F. GOLD
> Department of Physics, Department of Mathematics,
> University of Utah
> ABSTRACT
> Many attempts have been made to equate gravitational
> forces with manifestations of other phenomena.
> In these remarks we explore the consequences of
> formulating gravitational forces as asymmetric
> Coulomb charge interactions. This is contrary
> to some established theories, for the model
> predicts differential accelerations dependent
> on the elemental composition of the test mass.
> The predicted differentials of acceleration of
> various elemental masses are compared to those
> differentials that have been obtained
> experimentally. Although the model turns out
> to fail, the construction of this model is a
> useful intellectual and pedagogical exercise.
> INTRODUCTION
> The similarities in the expressions ... >>
> http://www.lib.utah.edu/epubs/undergrad/vol3/gold.html
>
> The balance function is a new observable based
> on the principle that charge is locally conserved
> when particles are pair produced. Balance
> functions have been measured for charged particle
> pairs and identified charged pion pairs in Au+Au
> collisions at $\sqrt{s_{NN}}$ = 130 GeV at the
> Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider using STAR.
> Balance functions for peripheral collisions have
> widths consistent with model predictions based
> on a superposition of nucleon-nucleon scattering.
> Widths in central collisions are smaller, consistent
> with trends predicted by models incorporating late
> hadronization.
> Full-text: PostScript, PDF, or Other formats
> http://arxiv.org/abs/nucl-ex/0301014
>
> ------------
> Sue...

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