Re: Einsteins 1905 Papers - Questioned

I know George and the other guy that's making him crazy but can you
guys please comment on this regarding the email exchange between
Professor Umberto Bartocci, a mathematical historian of the University
of Perugia and his audience.

http://www.dipmat.unipg.it/~bartocci/st/depretto.htm

Please be nice.

Thank you.

Bilge wrote:
> george.estrada@xxxxxxxxx:
> >I have a co-worker who is just driving me nuts about how Einstein
did
> >not write his papers.
>
> Do you live in a country that permits pest control for lower
> primates? If so, calling herwald is one option that's a sure thing.
>
> >His whole proof lies on the "fact" that Einstein
> >had no bibliography.
>
> In other words, einstein was clever enough to get someone else to
> write the papers but not clever enough to find someone who knew
> how to write a bibliography for the paper? If your pest from this
> planet or is this one of those cultural things that gets lost in
> the translation?
>
> >My question to anyone who can assist me is this, does anyone know
what
> >the accepted method was for writing papers in that period? Are all
> >papers of that time found to have bibliographies? Or was that the
norm?
>
> It's pretty much the same as it is now. If another article is the
source
> of something you've incuded in your paper, you acknowledge the author
of
> the article. Then as now, common sense goes a long way. Did you read
an
> article and make use of someone else's work in furthering your work?
If
> you did the work yourself, you aren't obligated to credit someone
else for
> your work. In fact, if you haven't actually read an article, you are
> obligated not to cite it, since presumably you don't know what the
article
> actually has to say. It's obviously a judgement call in some cases
> where a particular result is easily derived and isn't particularly
> novel any longer. You don't see einstein's 1905 paper cited in every
> article that uses relativity, for example, but you will see it cited
> if something specific from that 1905 paper is relevant.
>
> Ask your pest if he thinks einstein should have included a
bibliography
> referencing articles that einstein hadn't read.

.

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