Re: photons


"Dr ***" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1113638265.7963.0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> "Sue..." <suzysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I've forgoteen what I'm supposed to be doing cheaper it must be
> late.:-)
> s
> establish an EM path with fewer than 2 charges
> you said you needed no matter.
> dr
> No I dint say that exactly I think I said with little matter and the trouble
> with a positron and an electron is that the only way I can think of keeping
> them from cancelling themselves is by rotation and/or external magnetic
> fields or by electric fields that have had a lot of rotation added to them
> by their means of production.
s
The charges in a candle flame, have a Coulomb coupling to the charges
in your cornea. Since glancing at flame doesn't alter it, we can probably
assume safely that atomic bonding forces are adaquate to keep the
participants from "canceling" .

> s
> I don't think so. The technique is to configure the
> coupling structure
> so that one or the other component
> cancels out. A transformer with a Faraday shield, for example.
> I can't think of an example to cancel the magenetic
> component but allow the electric component because
> any free space potential is, by it's very nature, coupled.
> Permittivity Eh
>
>
> dr
> I see that I'm going to have to dig up Coulomb and do an autopsy and
> then
> make him fit gravity.
> It might not be a pretty sight so you better close your eyes:-)
>
> Yeah... we might be able to model gravity as magnetism with
> a 89.999999999 degree error... or some such.
> dr
> How about magnetism as gravity with 0 deg error ?:-)
> s
>
> Jefferies has some good antenna theory. Believe me...
> You will just chase your tail 'till you can explain large
> and small Faraday shielded loops
> dr
> I thought I could. Ask me a question in no more than three words :-)
> s
> OK
> ___________ defines E-plane aperture . ;-)
>
> dr
> Angular spread of polarised radiation. May not be the conventional one but
> it is what my model tells the answer is ?:-) I could even draw you a diagram
> :-) O! no she says, not another diagram :-) I was hoping to reply in less
> words than the question but failed without cheating. This is the cheat ASPR.
> :-)
s
I was more calling you bluff. But the point is that an infintesimally small solenoid
can produce a huge magentic field but have no legs. (1/r^3 ).
Some E-plane aperture is necessary to if the path is to diminish at 1/r^2.
This is why VLF transmitting antennas are usually found on large farms instead
of inside ladies purses.

> s
> That is the only configuration
> where you can separate the E from H fields
> dr
> I want the E fields not the mag fields :-)
> s
> Then don't jiggle any charges and that's what you'll get.
> s
> http://www.google.com/search?h­l=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=+­site%3Aww...
>
> dr
> Very rusty but have worked on RFI projects many years ago and some mag
> shielding ones as well. but never tried to shield mag and get max RFI
> :-)
> but seems a good tail chasing game. for long haul low cost comms. To
> daft and impossible for anybody else to be interested in ?:-)
>
> I have done a lot of antenna field analysis. So just trust me. ( after
> the check for the bridge clears the bank).
> The shortest path is to study a pair of Faraday shielded loops. You can
> "morph" the model into every thing else. In fact they are used as
> laboratory standard coupling structures up to 30MHz.
> dr
> But wont the Faraday screens shunt all the E field away and all you will
> have left is the mag field so we are into transformer design ?

If magnetism is a perturbation of electric fields then clearly it isn't "shunted
away". Hint: Faraday shields are configured so they will not present
themselves as a "shorted turn" or "eddy current".

The charges on the surface of the earth don't seem to shield the moons
gravity from the interior of the earth. Eh?

> Sue...
>
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