Re: Slabinski and Mingst/Stowe disagree in Pushing Gravity



Paul Stowe wrote:
> On 3 May 2005 05:17:53 -0700, "TC" <tclarke@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> >Paul Stowe wrote:
> >> ... The equation derived empirically for heating is,

> > empirically? No theory?

> Come'on Tom, every significant step is spelled out in our article
> (Eq. 22-26, pages 190-191). Within the assumptions specified
> there is, as far as I'm aware, NO mathematical inconsistency there.

Then why did you use the word "empirically"?
[But there must be a mistake somewhere in your paper
or in Slabinski's or else your results would agree with
Slabinski.]

Snip definitions for brevity.

> >> q' = kM/r

> > Once again the problem is that this is incompatible with
> > Slabinski or any other LeSage/Fato theory in which provides
> > heat on a per unit mass basis.

> Yes, on a 'per mass basis'.

> > Mass is M - no dependence on r.
> > Area is 4pi r^2
> > so to be compatible with Slabinski et al your expression
> > should read

> > q' = KM/r^2
> >
> > [pi etc goes into little k to big K switch]

> OK Tom, do a simple fit test. Let Jupiter be the base and
> we'll say that the net heat is proprtional to either the
> mass divided by radius (s) OR mass (m).

Don't forget that m/r can also be accounted for by
classical gravitational potential energy of collapse when
the planets formed.

> ... Now, we know that
> the net heat flux for Jupiter is ~ 6.6 Watts/m^2. Thus,
> either,

> x = 6.6(m/m')

> or

> x = 6.6(s/s')

> Where s' & m' are the mass & mass per radius of our basis,
> Jupiter.

[Paul argues that m/r is the best fit by comparing some
heat fluxes from various planets]

Thereby he disproves LeSagian gravity (which predicts m
dependence) and supports classical theory wherein m/r
is deposited in the body from its gravitational collapse
and is currently escaping from the body as relict heat.

Tom

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