Re: relativity of simultaneity - real or perceived?



Thanks to all for their responses. It's as I thought. I was however
confused by some responses to an earlier post. (This is why I am
asking, Paul - thanks for your clarity.)

I'm trying to work out a simple thing in preparation for something more
complex.

Consider Inertial Frame of Reference 1: 2 photons (or particles if you
prefer) both travelling at c towards each other along the X-axis.
Photon A is at position zero on the X-axis, and photon B is 1.5
light-seconds away.
Frame 1:
A->........449688687 meters........<-B
O1(Observer)
x_A = 0
x_B = 1.5 light seconds
t_A = 0
t_B = 0

Now consider this SAME situation from another Inertial Frame of
Reference 2, in which the axes are the same as Frame 1 and photon A
is also at position zero on the X-axis, but the observer, at rest in
Frame 1, is travelling at 0.5c relative to Frame 1, in the same
direction as photon A:
Frame 2:
A->.............? meters...........<-B
O2(Observer -> at 0.5c relative to O1)

Question: Where is photon B calculated (not perceived) to be in Frame 2
at the moment in Frame 2 when photon A in Frame 2 is at x'_A = x_A = 0?
To put it another way, If there was a 1.5 light-second long box between
A and B in Frame 1, so that the photons were at each end of the box at
this moment, then I would expect that in Frame 2 also the two photons
would be at each end of the box simultaneously. The distance however
between them would be calculated to be less. What is that distance?

.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: Bending of light not well authenticated
    ... > Proper spacetime implies proper time of a local observer. ... > non-accelerated frame, the speed of light is always c. ... When you receive or observe a photon directly, ... After integrating the angle to get the angle of deflection, ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Testing length contraction
    ... >> In frame S, construct two doors in advance of the moving rod, set apart ... >> and the rear door open. ... I ran this by scientists one time in this form. ... Einstein's own invention, the photon, to determine what is actually ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Length definition in SR - can anyone explain
    ... I'm in an inertial frame. ... The moving observer measures the length of one pulse to be ... about the range of speeds my photon emitting device can have and the ... how a moving frame moving with V relative to a laser source measures ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: relativity of simultaneity - real or perceived?
    ... > confused by some responses to an earlier post. ... > prefer) both travelling at c towards each other along the X-axis. ... > Photon A is at position zero on the X-axis, ... > Frame 1: ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: quick question
    ... >> It is of course at rest in its own inertial frame, ... > useful to view a photon as decomposable that way. ... > inertial frame of photons. ... A frame at rest relative to the moving photon ...
    (sci.physics)