Re: relativity of simultaneity - real or perceived?
- From: dubious@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Bilge)
- Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 19:32:09 GMT
Paul Stowe:
>On 13 May 2005 19:16:33 -0700, "Curious" <anthonyroseuk-curious@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>wrote:
>
>> Does 'relativity of simultaneity' mean that an event which is
>> simultaneous in one frame of reference, need not be simultaneous
>> in another frame? Or do the two frames just APPEAR to have a
>> different timing of events?
>
> Appears (as in observed). However, you'll hear the many of
> the modernist crowd claim perception IS reality. Thus if you
> observe it, then it is.
No, the ``modernist crowd,'' just like real scientists of all ages,
determines the reality from real experiments and real experiments
conclude that simultaneity is relative. Here are 3 references that
you won't read (n.b. unlike you, I manage to find references
which are readily available to anyone who wants to read them):
Phys. Rev. A 63, 022111
http://www.gapoptic.unige.ch/Publications/Pdf/relavc.pdf
Physical Review. A, volume 67, 042115
http://www.gapoptic.unige.ch/Publications/Pdf/PRA42115.pdf
Physical Review Letters volume 88, number 12
http://www.gapoptic.unige.ch/Publications/Pdf/Suarez.pdf
Don't forget to write these off when you're through not reading them,
using the excuse that the experimenters are not ``original thinkers.''
> All inertial frames can be tranformed into all others by calculation.
> What's your point? Is it that nature has an absolute sequencing and
> perceptions cannot change this?
The references above are experimental articles which disagree with you.
I suppose you have a thought experiment that disagrees with the real
experiments?
.
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