Re: Imagine


"*** rD" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1118269258.16781.0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> | > | http://bigben.stanford.edu/sumo/status.htm
> | > | http://bigben.stanford.edu/sumo/
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> Just looking at these links looks intereting.
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> | Time will do no such thing.
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> Muons to you and I'm still waiting to be proved wrong on my view about
> inversely proportional contraction\dilation.

Well that is not how the game is played.
I am still waiting for an experiment that includes muon production height
in the analysis.
Muon Production Height from the Muon Tracking Detector in KASCADE
http://www-rccn.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/icrc2003/PROCEEDINGS/PDF/8.pdf

and a convincing theory why a quantum lifetime is the equivalent to
a classical clock.

Relativity is about the forces between relative moving particles so atmospheric
muon production and decay may indeed be one of the best demonstrations.

I am, however not at all convinced by something like the Mount Washington
experiment which came up with ?convincing? numbers.... without knowing
that more muons are produced below the sumit than above. Uh Oh! :-(


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> |It waits for no man.... only women.
> | A physical contraction violates the first postulate.
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> Not if its inversely proportional to time dilation as c remains constant
> locally.

Ohhh! That riiiiight! The muons zipping past my repose make me
skinny... but fat if I am standing. ROFL
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> | Eliptical wheels
> | don't roll very well, regardless of who is looking at them or
> | how fast they are looking.
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> But that would explain why things on wheels don't just keep rolling as the
> speed up they contract in the direction of motion so they become ellipse and
> come to a stop {:-) But Galaxies don't have wheels so bang goes that theory
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> | > | Mind you Doppler in the light due to source motion and
> | > | > frequency shift due to observer motion don't seem to have been
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> | > | > these formula, perhaps it does not change the results?
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> | > | Dopple IS what you are correcting for.
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> | > No I'm not I'm correcting firstly for perspective and secondly light
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> | > delays. I would be using Doppler spectral line analysis to evaluate
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> | > velocity.
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> | Correcting for perspective is what a rail road engineer does to convince
> | himself that his wide train will work on the skinny track which he sees in
> the
> | distance. What's that got to do with the forces between two relative
> moving
> | charges ?
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> It dont but I was on about rods at that moment. So what charges do you want
> to natter about.

lektons and mew-ons look like good subjects. Things whose relative motion
has some true significance.

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> | Sue...
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> | > | > Just writting what I was thinking Sue.
> | > | > Still trying to work out *exactly why* they used roots squares etc
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> | > | The Pythagoreans invented it. ;-)
> | > | http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/reldop2.html
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> That dont make sense have to pick it to bits.

I agree. I believe it is only an approximation... favored for it's mathematical
properties as c is approached. It does not look like the optimum expression
when you consider the coupling between a pair of charges in a sea of charges.

....but it is close.

Sue...



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