Hammond Still Unable: Eickmeier Anti-SPOG Re-post



This is posted in case Mr. Hammond has missed my posts in his newsreader, although it would be hard to imagine that he has not seen it. I have posted these questions four times in the How to Avoid Homicide thread, and then formally in a new thread called The Eickmeier Anti-SPOG. George Hammond has simply ignored it, because he apparently has no answers to it. So let's all focus our attention on his response to this new thread, which I promised him I would keep posting until he does answer. It should be very interesting.

The Eickmeier Anti-SPOG

Bernhard Schornak has posted an excellent Anti-SPOG on his website

http://schornak.de/aspog/0003.htm.

This is my humble attempt to add to that voluminous work, but in a simpler manner, something that Hammond can understand.

Why an Anti-SPOG? If you are new to these groups, you may not have endured the constant harrassment of a fellow named George Hammond, who has hatched a theory about proving the existence of God. We try to ask him pointed questions to show him the errors in the paper, but he responds with more nonsense and/or insults. He is relentless, mouthy, disrespectful, and very frustrating. When one thread ends or deteriorates into a pissing contest, he will start another one, hoping to catch a few innocents gullible enough to believe that there is some science to it, but all you need is a high school education to see through a description of God as caused by our brain growth deficit, or equating him to a quantity in an equation.

In the last couple of weeks, I have posted some questions to George that he hasn't been able to answer. I posted them four times in the "God = Guv HOW TO AVOID HOMICIDE" thread, and still no response. He is apparently hoping it will all go away and he won't have to answer. So let's post them one more time, in this new thread, and see what happens.

The questions result from boiling down his paper to its essentials and discovering the gaps that he fails to fill in with his assertions, and pointing out the circular reasoning involved in his mathematics.

His paper is a triumph of assumption, assertion, and circular reasoning. In Figure 1 he states an assumption that BGD = God. In his mathematical section which attempts to "prove" his statements, he says that

"However, since time, the 44-element of Einstein's equation correlates negatively with speed (speed=time-1), we see that F is actually an increase in the brain growth deficit (1-M) thus identifying F with "God" as shown in Figure 1. Thus we have formally established that God is identified with the gravitational potential."

So he uses his own assumption in part 1 to prove that a quantity is identified with God. Any idiot can see that as circular reasoning, and invalid.

Then there is the PFF, or Picture Fusion Frequency. Here is an example of his reasoning from a previous post:

> [Hammond]
> You're a scientific incompetent.  Any competent scientist knows
> that if a 7 year old can only see 10 frames/sec while an 18 yr
> old can see 15 frames/sec as individual still pictures... then
> OBVIOUSLY 5 frames/sec are INVISIBLE to the 7 year
> old.
>   You don't even have a grade school qualification in
> Science.

I don't think it takes a genius to see that a higher or lower PFF does not mean that you are missing "seeing" part of the world around you. I have asked him for examples of what an adult can see that a seven year old cannot, but he has not responded to that either.

(Eickmeier)
"Can you direct us to your experiments in which you show something to a 7 year old and to an adult, and the 7 year old cannot see it? I can't think of any case or instance of such a phenomenon. I don't even know what you are talking about. What are you saying, exactly, with that statement? What can't the child "see"?"


His other assertions are that BGD, Brain Growth Deficit, causes us to not be able to "see" part of reality, and finally, that this "invisible world" contains God, religion, and heaven. I know, it sounds as idiotic as it is, but he is serious about this, and we are just trying to help.

QUESTIONS TO GEORGE HAMMOND:

I am now going to put back into this post the questions that you did NOT answer, and see if you are sincere or not. I have given the reasoning above for these questions. This involves the core of your paper, so whether you answer them or not pretty much determines your fate. You either have answers or you are a faker, trying to appear sciency but with no more behind you than a high school graduate. To quote for the fifth time from my previous post:

Your paper is a house of cards. It is built on certain unfounded assumptions which are referred to later and used in mathematical proofs. The missing steps are between:

* PFF and seeing reality

You have asserted that a lower PFF means that you see less of reality. Please explain or show the steps in your reasoning or relate the experiments that led you to believe this.

* BGD and "invisible world"

You have asserted that a BGD means that there is a world that is invisible to us. Please explain your reasoning or the experiments that led you to believe this. These steps are missing in your paper.

* "invisible world" and God, heaven, religion

Please explain why the invisible world would have to be God, or heaven, or anything to do with any particular religion. Tell us your reasoning, or relate the experiments that revealed to you what was in there. If this world is invisible to us, how did you manage to see what was in there? These steps are missing in your paper, and would be certainly the most interesting part of it, if you care to reveal it.

Fill in the missing steps before you go to any mathematics.

Gary Eickmeier
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Relevant Pages

  • Hammond Unable to Answer Eickmeier Anti-SPOG
    ... This is posted in case Mr. Hammond has missed my posts in his newsreader, although it would be hard to imagine that he has not seen it. ... If you are new to these groups, you may not have endured the constant harrassment of a fellow named George Hammond, who has hatched a theory about proving the existence of God. ... The questions result from boiling down his paper to its essentials and discovering the gaps that he fails to fill in with his assertions, and pointing out the circular reasoning involved in his mathematics. ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: the Bible as the word of God
    ... real response to my posts. ... assertions and not dealing with the root issues of why they are so ... Let's hear some reasoning ... some insight into god but they don't credit the bible at all. ...
    (soc.religion.christian)
  • Message from Dick Feynman to Steve Carlip
    ... Prefatory note from George Hammond, ... the creation of the human brain IS IN FACT the ... they DO KNOW intuitively that there is a God ... instructive "dialog" with Dick Feynman in the hopes that it ...
    (talk.origins)
  • Re: GOD=G_uv FOR IQs OVER 150
    ... God is caused entirely by "growth". ... that isn't genetics you''re staring at... ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Message to Aardpig, astrophysicist
    ... some scientists in Germany rediscoverd ... Einstein curvature G_uv of "linearized gravity". ... is the anthropomorphic "God" of history. ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)