Re: Electo London Gravity ?
- From: "sue jahn" <susysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:20:51 -0400
"Significant Zero" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1121078108.29029.2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> | > | "Significant Zero" <paulpsremove@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | > | > "sue jahn" <susysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | > | snip
> | > | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > | > > 1/r^1 = 1 so anything with 1/r^1 is an inertial ballistic
> | > object ?
> | > | > so
> | > | > | > I
> | > | > | > | > > don't know why that guy was quoting Coloumbe at 1/r below.
> ?
> | > | > | > |
> | > | > | > | It is the same as gravity. If you were a proton in the center
> of
> | > an
> | > | > | > | electron cloud half the e- minus would be on you right, half
> on
> | > your
> | > | > left.
> | > | > | > | If you were on the surface of the e- cloud, 100% the
> electrons
> | > would
> | > | > | > | be on one side of you. Same as gravity, 1/r^1 inside the
> cloud.
> | > | > | > | 1/r^2 as you move away from the cloud.
> | > | > | >
> | > | > | > Its not 1/r^1 see the internal gravity slope graph I mention
> above
> | > its
> | > | > more
> | > | > | > complex than that, inside a planet anyway. I will thing about
> your
> | > | > example
> | > | > | > as I don't think that equates to the field law slope inside a
> | > planet. I
> | > | > | > think your example at particle level to equate to a planet would
> | > have to
> | > | > be
> | > | > | > stating the coulomb force experienced by an electron as it
> burrowed
> | > into
> | > | > the
> | > | > | > centre of a proton and to make the gravity and coulomb examples
> | > parallel
> | > | > you
> | > | > | > would have to be talking about the forces experienced by a
> proton as
> | > it
> | > | > | > burrowed its way to a cloud of electrons which would not be 1/r
> but
> | > a
> | > | > | > complex slope as per gravity so the bloke who quoted 1/r below
> has
> | > not
> | > | > | > thought about it enough ?
> | > | > |
> | > | > | You won't like to hear this, but I am not sure protons have
> gravity
> | > | > either.
> | > | > | Perhap they do if we can detect FQHE.
> | > | >
> | > | > They do but it would just be a component of the charge and would
> | > probably be
> | > | > immeasurable small between two hydrogen atom ? Clue me FQHE I'm
> terrible
> | > | > with abbreviations sometimes.
> | > | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=FQHE&btnG=Google+Search
> | > |
> | > | >
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Regarding R and r
> | > | > | The mathymatishun in you, wants to see a smooth curve but see
> here:
> | > | > | http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/circles/u6l3e5.gif
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Missing on that graph is a nearly vertical red line representing
> | > | > | force below the surface.
> | > | >
> | > | > The force below the surface is equal to the acceleration and that is
> | > what
> | > | > that upside down tick is displaying.?
> | > | No. You need to draw a line from 0,0 up toward the
> | > | one o'clock position to meet with the highest point on the
> | > | red line.
> | >
> | > I have lost you here as we are debating what happens inside a planet or
> body
> | > and this according to the link you gave earlier is an inverted tick and
> does
> | > not match 1/r^2 or 1/r
> |
> | What happen inside is induced dipoles in the planet coupled to induced
> | dipoles in the miner's body. All you have to do is ratio the dipoles above
> him
> | to the dipoles below him to calculate his weight. At earth center it is
> | 50% above 50% below for a weight of zero.
> | >
> | >
> | > ~ acceleration inside earth
> | >
> | > /\ surface
> | > /
> | > /
> | > center
> |
> | That *%#!0# patent examiner has you hooking rockets on our
> | poor little miner...don't he? You trying to smash his helmet on
> | the cave ceiling or ya gonna let him stand in the shaft before ya
> | light the fuse? :o)
> |
> | There ain't no *acceleration* in those VDW and London
> | calculations... just FORCE. :o)
>
> Acceleration against an energy state change (surface) equals force?
> The above graph is correct as you have been looking at uniformed bodies and
> the acceleration is down not up.
OK... If you say so. I'd much rather call it force unless we can
can quantify time and displacement.
>
> snip
>
> | A point ? Ouch again!
>
> Just a mathematical point as no real physical points exist except
> subjectively {:-).
>
> snip
>
> | Decode the holy grail first.
> |
> | (1-(1/(1/3))^2)/(1 + (1/(1/3))^2) = - 0.08 = FTL ? -p<+p or
> | > (m*-v)<(m*+v) or (m*-c^2)<(m*+c^2) =g?
>
> The first bit is the product of the reaction of an accelerating mass and by
> recursion equalling FTL?
Big deal! I am moving FTL right now wrt one of the particles at fnal.
If I was a bit closer to one of those particles, Coulombly speaking,
it would be a big big deal.
Don't cry. I understand. That mean old Maxwell made you do that
didn't he. He thinks simply accelerating particles makes 'em radiate.
I guess it never occured to him what kind of gloves he was gonna
wear before he took a firm grasp on a particle to accelerate it. ;-)
and the second is the asymmetric response to a
> symmetric effect ?.
Sounds like a chaotic butterfly makin' cyclones.
>
> snip
>
> | > | Who would have tho't someone would be a national leader of the
> | > | English speaking people that doen't even speak the languge?
> | > |
> | >
> | > Who are you referring to ?
> | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dubya+english&btnG=Google+Search
> |
>
> Some of his twit is mind blowing" It's clearly a budget - it's got lots of
> numbers in it." G.W. Bush that's the sort of guy we need running another
> country not the S.H types who never make jokes and just tear your toenails
> off, give me GWB every time over SH, GWB a hoot with a boot and a man after
> my own bum. I expect if you are a Cubanio then you might have some
> historical issue with the US P. but then every body has their cross to bear
> and I hope for your sake you can get over it, codolences to go with the
> fishing.
Before 9/11 WTC Dubya had big plans to go to Mars. I am just sorry for
his sake that he had to settle for a quick junt out to a carrier instead.
Hopefully he'll get his travel plans back on schedule soon. ;o)
http://www.wepsite.de/Dubya_USS_Abraham_Lincoln_Chip_Bok_May_2_2003.gif
http://www.wepsite.de/Dubya_economyBorgman_May_5_2003.jpg
Sue...
>
> snip
> | > --
> | > Significant Zero E-field = Electric field, M-field =Magnetic field,
> two
> | > unbound field effects
> | > http://home.freeuk.com/paulps/
> | > Maybe updates. (1-(1/(1/3))^2)/(1 + (1/(1/3))^2) = - 0.08 = FTL ? -p<+p
> or
> | > (m*-v)<(m*+v) or (m*-c^2)<(m*+c^2) =g?
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
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