Re: Why relativity is infalsifiable
- From: dubious@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Bilge)
- Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:31:21 GMT
Daniel Weston:
>Bilge: Your consistent responses to this issue in relativity, by
>avoiding the question, and responding with put downs,
I haven't avoided anything. As for the put downs, I suggest you
try tellig an orthapedic surgeon how to repair an anterior cruciate
after explaining that don't know where it is or what is, but you're
sure orthapedic surgeons are wrong.
>illustrate your own lack of understanding of relativity.
Sure, whatever you say, ***.
>You seem only to be able to repeat textbook math.
Do you really consider high school geometry to be challenging
math? If so, my apologies. I had assumed that anyone who was going
to tell me that relativity is ``just math'' would have understood
the pythagorean theorem. Sorry, but we have not touched on any
mathematics that might be considered anything but trivial and
trivial to interpret physically. I've introduced more mathematics
in a 1 hour lecture than you would need to understand the simple
answer you've been given for years by a multitude of people.
Your problem is conceptual. If you can't grasp the basic concept
behind the pythagorean theorem, you should consider some less
challenging form of entertainment. If you simply don't want to
understand it, then you should ask yourself why you bother reading
this newsgroup and stop being a hypocrite about the abuse you
receive. Willfull ignorance ought to be met with abuse.
>You are a math type who has become so math embroiled, that the world
>appears to you as stuff as seen through math glasses.
Don't be an ass. I'm an experimentalist, so your attempt to
use the strawman ``math type'' is absurd on its face. I've spent
a great deal more time designing apparatus to try and observe
what physical theories mean and what they predict than doing
recreational mathematics.
>You are not a professional relativist, and it shows.
I don't have to be a ``professional relativist'' (whatever that
means). Every physicist studies special relativity and has to
understand it just to survive as a graduate student. I'll be the
first to admit that I don't understand general relativity anywhere
nearly as well as a gravitational physicist, but we aren't dealing
with anything subtle in general relativity here.We're dealing with
special relativity at the conceptual level - like your inability
to grasp the pythagorean theorem. If you can't find the length of
a line from the origin given the distances along each of two
axes, you need to go buy a geometry textbook. I expect anyone who
wants to offer an opinion on a subject to at least understand the
basic concepts.
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