Re: Black holes radiate - the end of GR is there


"Koobee Wublee" <kublai@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:ZVOWe.15000$mH.2585@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> "Tom Roberts" <tjroberts@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Josef Matz wrote:
> >> Other articles in discussion groups upon the newest observations of
> >> quasar
> >> black hole show,
> >> that theses black holes send out very very hot radiation for very very
> >> long
> >> times.
> >
> > Actually, it is not the black holes themselves that radiate, but the
> > infall of matter surrounding the black hole, called the accretion disk[#].
> >
> > [#] it's a disk because it invariably is rotating, and gets
> > compressed into a disk by well-understood processes.
>
> Yes, I agree with Mr. Roberts that theoretically this scenario described
> above is very likely. However...
>
> >> This cant be modeled with GR because nothing comes out of black holes.
> >
> > Sure it can be modeled with GR, you just have to do it correctly.
>
> Black holes as GR predicted can never be direrctly observed, and they can
> only exist at an observer's own end-of-time whenever it is. So, claiming to
> have detected a black hole is saying we are existing at the end of time.
> And I find this scenario very suspicious. So, doing it correctly with GR as
> a constraint, we should never have detected the existence of a black hole.
> Claiming to have detected a black hole is to ignore the teaching of GR.

If a theory predicts the existence of an object that has a
certain influence on its surroundings that no other object
could have according to the theory, then the detection
of the consequences of such influences is evidence for
the existence of such an object.

I think you are more interesting when you spout your
antisemitic nazi racist nonsense:

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| "Scholarly Fungi" <scholarlyfungi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > It is also unfortunate that most of the folks blindly embracing this
| > holohaux come from the white supremacists. I don't see what this would gain
| > for them other than trying to antagonize the Jews. However, this is
| > history. When I was in my early high school years, I independently came up
| > with what Butz was saying without knowing his existence. Hey, I am very
| > proud of my humble analytical skills.


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| "Scholarly Fungi" <scholarlyfungi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:<NnI09.31007$Fq6.3183800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>...
| > All history is written upon congruency among the historians but except one.
| > The Holocaust was born in the court rooms of Nueremberg. It is a complete
| > hoax.
| >
| > I did not know of Arthur Butz, but I independently came up with that
| > hypothesis noticing the tremendous amount of inconsistencies while studying
| > holohoax in high school.


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| "Australopithecus Afarensis" <lucy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > Thanks for posting all that and your own comments at the end. There are so
| > many lies after lies conjured up against the Nazis. I guess I'd better read
| > "Mein Kampf" to get it from the horse's mouth. It will be on my
| > things-to-do list for the near future.


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| On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 21:42:04 -0700, "Australopithecus Afarensis"
| <lucy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
|
| >Thanks for answering these questions fair and square.
| >
| >Although I don't speak for all other Australopithecine, I certainly want to
| >be as less nationalistic as possible. I am an individual just trying to
| >learn as much as I can before my short life expires on this earth.
| >
| >OK, now the media and "media"-controlled educational history have painted
| >the Nazis as the most fiendish group of people ever lived through out the
| >entire history of mankind. When I was growing up, I was constantly reminded
| >that the Nazis were so genocidal, they will kill any non-Germans in a heart
| >beat. After getting constantly bombarded with Nazi atrocities, I was very
| >much like the rest. Well, until one clip of film showing mountains of hair
| >inside a giant oven, the purpose was to show how many people murdered and
| >cremated. As a young scientist-to-be, it just hit me that the whole sh*t
| >was a lie. As far as I knew, the human hair would burn first. After
| >meticulous research and reasoning, I have concluded the WWII Nazis were no
| >more atrocious than any other governments in the 20th century or beyond.
| >Many of these information mostly came out after the explosion of the
| >internet where all skeletons in the closets finally have a chance to tell
| >their side of the story. Now, what is your plan to the public to shed these
| >negative sentiments accused against your political group?
| >


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