Re: "Is There a Force of Gravity?"



On Mon, "Harry" <harald.vanlintel@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>Hmm... then, if *you* live in, say, Switzerland and you are *really*
>(remember, that was the issue) accelerated by being in contact with the
>earth, then the same is true for a guy living in the south of New-Zealand.
>OK?

That is close to the observed geography, right.

> But he accelerates in the opposite direction.

Sure, after all, the Earth _is_ approximately and oblate spheroid.

>Thus according to you,
>New-Zealand and Switzerland are *really* accelerating away from each other
>by 20 m/s^2...

Right, a little less, 2 * 981 cm per sec, per sec, it's crank time here Harry. :-)

Since I am the biggest proponent of the Electrodynamic Divergence
of Matter model which I claim to be the mechanism of gravitation, I must
take the brunt of the ridicule.

>I'd say that it's not Daniel who went over to the Dark Side!
>Harald

I don't like being associated with the dark side, but all of
us are a little crazy. :-)

Actually, if all matter did expand with an acceleration
due to internal repulsion, then a "spacetime" would result with
unit intervals that are covariant, but not of fixed value.

It is enough for me to understand how this could be
the mechanism of gravitation, while General Relativity is
still the best way at present to do the math.

There are many things that are clues to this,
and in my opinion, it is the only thing that could be
the mechanism that produces the observed phenomena.


We owe Newton a world of thanks for an
extremely simple way to work with the mechanics
of gravity, engineers and astromomers should be
especially thankful.

But a more accurate method of describing
and predicting gravitational processes was needed,
and we have Einstein to thank for that.

Perhaps Minkowski and Grossman guided
Einstein to the method he used to treat the math,
without them he might have been as crazy as I.

It feels really good not to be expecting
mysterious undetectable forces to be found that
implement gravity.

Inertia is the only possible way nature
can exert such a great force between mountains
and the Earth below them.
And the Electrodynamic Divergence of Matter
is the only thing that can hold all types of matter
together in addition to the well known processes
of cohesion, adhesion, and other close range
processes.

There are simply NO long range forces
that can do what gravity does, there is no "force"
interactions besides "contact interactions", and
if matter expands, then the unit intervals of time
and distance change.
Nature takes the least complicated way,
but that doesn't mean that the way is easy to see
and understand.
Nothing could be less complicated than
a molecule expanding, and with 10^28 molecules
expanding, objects on the surface would resist
the expansion with about a kilogram of force
for each kilogram the objects weigh.

Crank Time

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