Re: deterministic truth, deterministic falsehood


"beda pietanza" <beda-pietanza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "beda pietanza" <beda-pietanza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> > Man discover the hidden laws of nature as he gets along with history.
>>
>> eh?
>>
>> >
>> > Not only the scientific achivements are enlisted, also there are
>> > unavoidable
>> > errors
>>
>> eh?
>>
>>
>> > and swindlers that man discovers and that he must go through.
>>
>> So far you made no sense, and your sentences were not really meaningful
>> or
>> logical.
>
> please point out what exactly you desagree, I say that scientific
> discoveries and unavoidable errors are find along our path and
> they are predetermined by nature and don't depend from our
> will, what do you have to say against this exactly ????

Nothing but its irrelevant. And obvious. And meaningless. Whats the point?


>> >
>> > We may have a personal cataloques
>>
>>
>> ??? Define catalogue? And what you mean.
>>
>>
>> > where we put truths
>>
>> Define truths. And the meaning of this vague statement?


I see you did neither. (above.)



>
>>
>> > and where we put
>> > errors, yet those true discoveries and those unavoidable errors have a
>> > objective existence behyond our will.
>>
>> ??? Errors are errors. Truths are proven. I dont "put them" anywhere.
>>
> Most of the time Truths are errors not yet proven as such.
> Experience of errors is the only and the most efficience way to knowledge:
> Truths and errors are not invented but are just discoveries.


You speak in riddles that mean absolutely nothing. Use facts and logic.



>> > This cultural determinism must be taken into account when we stand for
> or
>> > against something.
>>
>> No only fact.
>
> facts or interpretations of facts ???

Facts.



>> > By selecting the unavoidable from the "noise" we have a hint of the
>> > absolute
>> > milestones that, true or false, trace the obliged path from our past to
>> > our
>> > future.
>>
>> Eh?????????
>
> I mean here again, that we are bound to meet with the unavoidable
> discoveries, some pregnant of thruth and some very deceiving and false.


Then they are theories, evidence, and as yet unproven, so what?




> These discoveries are deterministically preset in the womb of nature.


No. Unless you can PROVE otherwise.



>> > True or false the relativistic theories belong to the obliged path of
> our
>> > journey.
>>
>>
>> You talk garbage, only facts and logic make any sense.
>
> Facts need interpretations and logic is very personal and subjective.

No thats the point. Facts are just that. Logic is always logic. Logic by
definition is not subjective.



>
> So don't bring in facts but say your opinion on a certain interpretation
> of
> facts, that is all you can do.


An opinion on an "interpretation" is a theory, to be proven wrong or right
by LOGIC which cannot be subjective or FACTS which speak for themselves.


I suggest you go back to church because your amazing lack of logic means
that by now you have almost guaranteed to have been assimilated.


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