Re: absolute time and the etheristic SR Doppler
- From: "oriel36" <geraldkelleher@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 2 Nov 2005 06:23:12 -0800
Harry wrote:
> <surrealistic-dream@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >
> > beda pietanza wrote:
> > > The most intuitive concept about time is the absolute time: in this
> instant
> > > something is going on in every place in the universe, as it could be
> seen if
> > > we had the light travelling at infinite speed.
> >
> > Absolute time meant something different to Einstein. It meant this: 1)
> > Invent some operational means, to be used by all observers, of
> > establishing whether or not two events are simultaneous in a given
> > reference frame. 2) if any two distant events are simultaneous in one
> > reference frame they must be simultaneous in all reference frames. 3)
> > if 1) and 2) can always be asserted then time can be modeled as
> > absolute.
>
> Many things meant something different to Einstein - and that also changed a
> bit over the years, as he turned from a positivist to some kind of natural
> philosopher.
>
> Absolute time as used by Beda corresponds to the standard definition from
> the theory of Newton.
>
> Harald
There is where Isaac adopted Flamsteed's erroneous value for axial
rotation and how clocks keep a standard pace with that rotation,it is
also where relativistic freaks get the rotation to absolute space or
Newton's maneuver of transfering Flanmsteed's axial rotational/fixed
star equivalency at 23 hours 56 min 04 sec.
Every single one of you creeps,aetherist,relativist,Newtonian or
whatever guise you come under will use the principles that fix a clock
to axial rotation at 15 degrees per hour and 24 hours/360 degrees in
total.
Like creationists who are required to make an effort to believe in
childish things,likewise you follow Newton in his funny attempt to
shift an axial rotational/fixed star equivalency to a
geocentric/heliocentric orbital equivalency.
The Equation of Time that is the bridge between the natural unequal day
and the 24 hour clock day was adapted by the early hel;iocentrists to
the newly discovered principle of indepedent axial rotation hence they
retained the noon correction for astronomical and clock synchronisation
purposes.Newton gets that right but they derails at the astronomical
justification.
"Absolute time, in astronomy, is distinguished from relative, by the
equation or correlation of the vulgar time. For the natural days are
truly unequal, though they are commonly considered as equal and used
for a measure of time; astronomers correct this inequality for their
more accurate deducing of the celestial motions."
http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/definitions.htm#time
What a bunch of phonies and not one of you good enough to know what is
going on.Given that retrograde motions are resolved by direct
observation and people will actually enjoy how Copernicus and Kepler
used the annual orbital motion of the Earth to infer
heliocentricity,the stupid Newtonian framehopping maneuver and his
disciples will again take center stage and the spotlight will be very
much on the cretinous destruction of a exquisite astronomical heritage.
.
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