Re: Sci Am proposes SR wrong and Aether exists
- From: "David Thomson" <google@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 30 Dec 2005 11:16:44 -0800
Joe Fischer wrote:
> I got it long before you were born, without matter
> and energy there is nothing.
Really? How many bottles of energy have you seen? What are the
dimensions of matter?
In reality, there are protons and electrons that are moving. In
reality, matter is a generic term with no measurement and energy is
merely a unit of work. No, I'm afraid you are wrong and I am right.
Long before you were born there was, still is, and forever will be,
subatomic particles, Aether, and the fundamental forces. Matter and
energy are considerations of poets and people who have confused
themselves about the true nature of reality.
> > You are using two different definitions of
> >mass in the same sentence and not recognizing your error.
>
> I made no error, there are two ways to measure the
> quantity of matter, by accelerating it and comparing the
> force required, or to count the number of atoms and
> molecules multiply by the mass of each along with well
> established actual measurements of binding energy, etc.
Now you are spinning the discussion again. Mass is a dimension,
period. Kilograms are measurements, period. It doesn't matter what
method you use to measure kilograms or newtons, the dimension of mass
is the same in both.
> >When mass
> >has a quantity, i.e. it is a measurement, then it is called a kilogram,
> >gram, or some similar unit. It is the kilogram that is measureable,
> >not the dimension of mass. The dimension of mass is merely the quality
> >of the kilogram, not the kilogram itself. It is the *kilogram* that is
> >the QUANTITY, not the *dimension* of mass.
>
> Like I said before, you assemble words into a
> sentence that don't even belong on the same page.
I am providing you with clarity, and you choose to bury your head in
the sand. You are backed into a corner and can't get out. If mass is
a measurement, we would say "I have five masses" and there would be no
question what that quantity would be. But we don't say that, we say,
"I have five kilograms." and you know exactly what that quantity is.
Mass is a dimension, not a quantity. Only by confusing mass with
measurement can you make that mistake.
It is you and the system of physics you learned that are out of place
and disjointed.
> I changed my mind, don't promote your book,
> burn it and start writing fiction, it will probably sell
> a lot better.
You got a point there. Too bad Albert Einstein didn't retain
publishing rights to his works. And why would anybody want to watch
Star Wars or Harry Potter when modern physics teaches us a far weirder
and less consistent version of reality?
Dave
.
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