Re: We All failed (regarding the definition of a crackpot)


"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:qa7Cf.211690$AF5.6954039@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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>> >> >> > One who enters into a "free flow" arena should not in any >> >> >> > way feel
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > it is a more sheltered environment.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Once again, I agree. I have no expectations of any >> >> >> sheltering WRT to
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> content of my posts. However, no public arena is sheltered, >> >> >> yet that's
>> >> >> no
>> >> >> reason why a certain standard of etiquette should not be >> >> >> observed. And
>> >> >> sheltered or not, it's certainly no reason why some should >> >> >> try to
>> >> >> silence
>> >> >> others.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know how anyone would, on a public forum, try to >> >> > silence
>> >> > another except by withering criticism, the very thing that >> >> > works so
>> >> > well in the public forum.
>> >>
>> >> Well, when I first came to this forum, I came for a better >> >> understanding
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> subject matter. In doing so, I quickly found that I was >> >> expected to
>> >> accept
>> >> answers given and not challenge them. That's when that attacks >> >> got
>> >> personal.
>> >> So I found other ways to amuse myself for quite a while, but >> >> when I
>> >> returned
>> >> and
>> >> began to engage others here, one of the *regulars* made it a >> >> point to
>> >> respond
>> >> to
>> >> seek me out and interject himself into my conversations by >> >> calling me a
>> >> *crackpot* and advising others not to waste their time with me.
>> >>
>> >> In fact, after making a post here after taking another short >> >> pause from
>> >> posting
>> >> here, one here even stalked me to other NGs to smear me there! >> >> Now if
>> >> that's
>> >> not an attempt at intimidating me from posting here, what is?
>> >>
>> >> Since then, it's been much more of the same. One regular has a >> >> web site
>> >> dedicated to immortal fumbles, and others engage in similar >> >> tactics.
>> >
>> > The tactics of exposing your blatant dishonesty for instance?
>> > >> > http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Cowardice.html
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>> As shown by this post, the dishonesty is all yours. Moreover, >> you're the one
>> who stalked me here in a childish attempt to get others to ignore >> me, and
>> when
>> that failed, you even went so far as to find me in other NGs to >> harass me
>> there.
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> Ah, you call your fabricating a quote of mine, a dishonesty of mine > :-)

I didn't fabricate a quote of your's. 

I wrote this:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/35fdc26f709ef599
then you replied this:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/60e5c90cb1f12162
and so you got this:

http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Cowardice.html
whether you LOL or whine about it :-)


And once again, your posts here confirm that I did not misquote you. But even if in your delusions you believe that I did, that's all you've got? A misquote back in 2004? You took this and made it very personal much. much before that, and you kept it up, especially when you even went to the lengths of seeking me out in another NG, and spreading your drivel there.

As I said......YOU made this personal long before I even thought of doing so, and instead of ever letting it go, instead of simply putting the knives down, you instead ratcheted up the tenor and frequency of your attacks.





> That deserves another entry - don't you think?
> Here we go:
> > http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/AllYours.html
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> And, "stalking" you say?

Do you deney chasing me down in another forum to spread your scum? 

I'd call that "teasing" you, since you obviously love it:

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/e1cbca757f6fedb


Of course that's what you'd call it. You'd define it any way you could to excuse your despicable behavior. Well, if you're so anxious to prove you're not the despicable character that I know you to be, then just put the knives down and let it go. Criticize what I post for what I post, but if you do, then do so to me. Stay away from personal attacks, and stop trying to tell others that they should not engage me in dialogue. There's simply no justification for that kind of behavior. NONE.





> If you don't like being "stalked", what's all this then?
> > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/e1cbca757f6fedb
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> You posted this yesterday on this same thread and you changed
> the subject to "DVM bites again!" :-)

That's not stalking you, dip***. 

Of course it isn't stalking.
I never said it was stalking.


But that's what YOU do.

I said that this proves that you like it. 

It proves that I like showing you to be the idiot you are.


Whose the dip*** here? 

Clearly, it's you.

I think you are getting too emotional here :-)

That's a laugh coming from you who can't control himself and finds the need to launch personal attacks and tries to stifle free and open discussion among others. Face it, not matter how hard you try to claim that you're not pissed or *emotional*, the clear truth is that the emotion you show is fear. This is your whole world, after all, and your greatest fear is that anyone could put the slightest *** in your armor. It's what motivates your hate and bitterness. It's the abject fear of being shown to be the slightest bit wrong.

In fact, it's more pathetic than that. Not only can't you stand the thought of being wrong, you can't even stand the thought of not having a good answer in the first place.

I posted something to someone else, you YOU
responded with more of your crap. Well, your crap isn't worth a thing to me, so
I did that, and I'll continue to do so.

What's more, I don't attack you personally for your thoughts and ideas about
science. YOU are the one who reduced this to a personal level,

What personal level?

I've already explained that above. I left here for a while, and when I came back and began a dialogue with some one else, you entered the fray in a sad attempt to get them to end discussion with me by smearing me. That's a personal level.


Do you think that I look at a coward who calls itself "Allyou!"
as a person?

More ridiculous justification for your actions. You know I'm right, and you know what you do here is indefensible, and so now you're grasping at straws. So if I'm not a person, why do you claim to *tease* me? Be careful, now, your whole argument is starting to crumble for everyone to see. Do you feel the fear now? The anger? The bitterness? Are you pounding your keyboard just a little bit harder? Is your chin starting to quiver? Be very careful, because you're digging yourself in much deeper now.


and so now that
you have, I'm right there with you. YOU wanted to make this personal, so now
it's personal. Plain and simple, you're an ***. 

Again, you take this far too seriously.
Try to control your emotions :-)

My assessment of you as being an *** is completely unemotional. It's a rational and inevitable conclusion.


> As far as I can tell, LOL means that you are having great fun.

With you, I am. 

Okay, so I can nicely continue then. Nice to know.

You're a worthless piece of *** with no life except for the
gratification you can get here by deluding yourself that you're smarter than the
averge bear. If not for that, you'd have no life. so when you feel threatened
by anyone, you get very nasty, very personal, and just plain evil. You're a
scum-bag, and not of much more value to this world than that.

> If that is indeed the case, why are you complaining? Can't you
> decide?

Sure I can, and I have.  See the above, dip***.


> If it is not the case, wouldn't you agree that this is another
> instance of dishonesty?

There was never a first one.


http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Cowardice.html 

There never was a first one.


> Or do you prefer to call it undecidedness?

I prefer to call you a pathetic old fool.


> Can I help you decide?

Decide what? 

When I just asked "Can't you decide?", you answered:
  "Sure I can, and I have.  See the above, dip***."
And now you ask "Decide what?".
Short memory?
You can always try your own advice and "see the above" :-)


I have decided.  Just look above.

> Apart from that, you see, unlike you, I don't have to fabricate
> another person's quotes, and when *I* quote someone, I always
> include the pointer to the archives and the context.
> See the difference?

I see that you're an *** who can't help but attack when the only thing of
value to his life is the least bit threatened.

hm, try to avoid projection - it looks silly. 

It makes you look silly.


> Now, feel free to give us another complaint with another
> self-respecting Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaap and another LOL and
> another hook :-)

Gladly, ***. You';re always good for a laugh when I'm trolling for fish.
C'mon, guppy, bite!


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Yes, that's the spirit :-) 

I knew you'd bite!


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