Re: What is LET?

The "aetherist" motto:

"When in trouble, deny with all your might"

Here is Trouton's bio, from the official website of the physics dept:

http://www.phys.ucl.ac.uk/department/history/BFox1.html#Fox140

Same story. It is good to know science history, saves your time from
working on dead theories.




When in trouble, deny
Aetherist wrote:
> On 28 Jan 2006 20:50:22 -0800, "dej4" <clujdej@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >Aetherist wrote:
> >> On 28 Jan 2006 20:18:28 -0800, "dej4" <clujdej@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> How would you measure the conrtaction? and with what?
> >> >
> >> > Paul Stowe
> >> >
> >> > What contraction? Don't you know that in SR it is apparent
> >> > (i.e. not measurable)? Whreas in LET it is considred objective
> >> > (i.e. measurable).
> >>
> >> Sorry wrong, as usual...
> >
> > Yes, indeed you are wrong but it is impossible to convince you
> > of this.
>
> Is this a kiddi 'I know you are but what am I' kinda'of'thing?
>
> >>> The problem is that two awowed antirelatiists
> >>
> >> Who's an anti-relativist???
> >
> > Trouton, Rankine. Read ibefore asking stupid questions.
> >
> >>> Trouton and Rankine set up to detect the Lorentz contraction
> >>> and came out...empty:
> >>
> >> As it would for LET...
> >
> > Nope, Read the Lorentz paper, You, yourself made the effort to
> > put it on the web.
> >
> Read it & got it... You, sadly, haven't...
> >>
> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trouton-rankine
> >>>
> >>> ...and several others after them (Chase, Tomashek). At least they were
> >>> honest, the reported faithfully the results of their experiments. Not
> >>> the first time when antirelativists provide the best proof for SR. (MM
> >>> before them, Ives-Stilwell after them)
> >>
> >> So? That's the point. The Lorentz contraction affects everything
> >> that moves equally. That includes all instruments used... When you
> >> 'see' (as in reflected or transmitted light) it must travel at c,
> >> from A to B, and these paths are linked by, you guessed it, the
> >> material objects in the system... But, for you, I doubt that you
> >> guessed it.
> >
> > This ranks for one of the Immortal Fumbles. Have you read the
> > article on wiki?
>
> Yeah, Wiki is a high class source...
>
> > How far do you think you can take this comedy? Do you think
> > anyone takes you seriously in your continuing self-dilusion?
>
> FYI what make you think that Lorentz said the contraction could
> be discerned? In fact, he says,
>
> "It will therefore be impossible to detect an influence
> of the Earth's motion on any optical experiment, made
> with a terrestrial source of light, in which the
> geometrical distribution of light and darkness is observed.
> Many experiments on interference and diffraction belong
> to this class."
>
> Do something concrete, show in Lorentz's paper the section where
> he claims the contraction must be measurable.
>
> >> Thus, even in LET it isn't a 'measurable' quantity...
> >
> > Yeah, right. And an Aussie spaceship has just landed on the Sun.
>
> It did? :) Funny, it's not hit the news wires yet he-he
>
> > The calculations that permitted that were done based on the
> > "new" GR developed by Paul Stowe.
>
> New GR? Oh, how little you know about me...
>
> Paul Stowe

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