Re: Your bets please....

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:32:29 +0000, Bilge wrote:

sal:
>On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 10:13:54 +0000, Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>
>
>> "Hayek" <hayektt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:441b6f5b$0$11063$e4fe514c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
>>> We all know the endless discussions about one of the twins chasing
>>> the stars and coming back, about SR and Lorentz.
>>
>> We all know how imbeciles like you have the struggle of their life
>> with it.
>>
>>
>>> Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two possible, simple
>>> answers.
>>
>> What would an imbecile like you who claims that "HIV does not cause
>> AIDS" do with simple answers?
>> http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=author%3Ahayek+aids+hiv
>
>Crikey, he really does say that.
>
>Where do all these crazy people come from, anyway?

That is actually a conjecture made a long time ago by peter duesberg,
who is a well-respected molecular biologist

_Formerly_ well-respected. His goofball view of Aids, which seemed to be
based on reasoning along the lines of "It doesn't look like an ordinary
disease caused by a common microbe so it can't result from any kind of
virus", pretty much put an end to that everywhere except the lunatic
fringe.

This was a long time ago (haven't read anything about Deusberg in quite a
while), but as I recall his published mumbling on the subject included
reasoning based on use of the seven life signs, which is a leftover notion
from the beginning of the last century. There was no serious biology
involved that I could see. Speculation that the big Aids jump from
primates to people was caused by the polio vaccine, for instance, was
far, far better founded than the nonsense Deusberg put(s) out (though
proved equally wrong in the end).

His very loose reasoning could have been applied to prove mad cow disease
doesn't exist and prions can't cause illness just about equally well.

I never understood why he was apparently admired in the gay community; the
guy was toxic as far as I could see.


and who has gained some
support for his view from a few notable researchers.

Look around you. A "few notable researchers" can be found to support just
about any lunatic fringe notion, in physics just as well as biology.
Sucking in a few other closet lunatics doesn't show his view made sense.


However, hayek is as
usual, posting soundbites with no real comprehension of what he is
posting,

No argument there!


thus managing to insure that anyone who reads what he posts will
be predisposed to reject everything he advocates as crackpottery.
Naturally, dueserg's theory is a wee bit more complex than hayek's
soundbites.

I'm sure that dueserg or any other competent scientist doing

I take issue with the use of the word "other".


controversial research would be etter off if crackpots like hayek were not
among their advocates.

>Odd -- he also seems to be posting in alt.local.village.idiot lately. I
>wonder why...

Probably because there is no alt.global.village.idiots.

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