Re: The BIG Bang!


"tomgee" <tyropress@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1142875299.540940.268000@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Gary Eickmeier wrote:
xxein@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Gary Eickmeier wrote:
>
>>I am not a scientist, just an intelligent man of some education. So >>I
>>read in the newspaper that scientists have "the smoking gun" that >>proves
>>that during the Big Bang the universe went from the size of a >>marble to
>>a volume larger than all observable space in a trillion-trillionth >>of a
>>second. It makes me kind of mad that they think they can tell us >>any
>>piece of crap and we will believe it. I wouldn't be surprised if >>there
>>are three conspirators somewhere laughing their asses off at the
>>newspapers printing such a stupid story.
>>
It's time for me to get into this discussion now that so many have
revealed their positions and cannot take them back. Gary, you are an
intelligent man of some education, as am I, a fan of science. I have
argued like you for some time now, and if you wish to read more of what
I've posted, search my posts in "options" under (my) author name, if
you haven't already done so. I read the "smoking gun" article in these
ngs and promptly squashed it.

The ninny who loves to post such trash here almost on a daily basis
could not beat my arguments so he just posted another link and opened
up another thread. From the answers posted here to date, we are not
writing to intelligent men of some education here, but to men who are
victims of the overindoctrination imposed on young people in such ways
as to last them a lifetime. We who are not of this discipline suffer
this brainwashing in only peripheral ways, and some of us soon enough
come to reject such classical conditioning as stupid attempts maintain
allegiance to conformity for the discipline.

Well, your lack of indoctrination has certainly lead you to believe that AE did not provide the math to calculate the Twin Paradox, that a state is a quantifiable variable, that time passes at a rate, that a vacuum exerts an attractive force of some kind, that units don't need to be assigned to quantifiable entities, and so many more notions that those who have been indoctrinated simply can't grasp. In fact, it's what has let you go much further than AE ever dreamed.

Obviously, it needs it, else why go to such lengths to change an
inherent trait of curiosity in humans so as to instill in students the
inability to welcome new ideas. Note, e.g., that while you are talking
about the Inflationary Period (IP), most who have responded think
you're talking about the BB theory. They think it is the same thing,
and one even claims the IP concept was invented by Relativity!

>>Do you see how ridiculous this is? The universe in the size of a >>marble?

I do not see this particular point as ridiculous because the BBT is
based on the observation that the universe appears to be expanding. If
so, there must have been a ploint from where it began to do that, and
the BBT is as good as any idea from which to start. Since it does not
conflict with our observations, it is a valid theory.

Now there you go again with all that stuff about theories and their validity. It seems that the process of indoctrination has already begun for you. Be very careful.......you're slipping into the abyss.




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