Re: An Unpleasant Discussion
- From: "dda1" <rangeravenger@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 16 May 2006 08:24:24 -0700
manesiro wrote:
This World even observed by un-aided eyes provides much interesting
things and surprise to human mind. The N.A.S.A. and other Observatories
world over are reporting interesting findings almost everyday.
We human beings speculate and unfortunately speculations of some are
presented as Absolute Truth. We must be able to discern Facts from
Speculation. The red shift is a fact observed but expanding universe is
a speculation. Subsequently, what is holding the galaxies together
resulted in further speculation of Dark Matter.
Ptolemy system was able to explain changes in position of stars and
planets on assumption of stationary Earth.
Copernican system established supremacy of Modern Science over Church-
holding Medieval views, by showing that Earth is moving round the Sun.
The Null result of Michelson-Morley Experiment came as a blow- it is as
if Earth be stationary. It shook the very foundation of Modern Science.
The Paradox of The Null result of Michelson-Morley Experiment
compelled Physics of Early 20th Century to accept the logic of Special
theory of Relativity. This opened the Pandora's box of all wild
speculations, experimental manipulations and erratic interpretations.
The NULL result of Michelson-Morley Experiment is a fact while Special
theory of Relativity is just a human speculation to explain it.
The Logic of STR is fallacious in its Derivations and in its
Assumptions.
Logic of Special Theory of Relativity
Let there be just two frames of References.
1. Moving frame, moving with relativistic velocity V. Suppose it is a
carriage with a lamp at floor and a mirror on ceiling, just above and
in line with lamp at floor.
The height of carriage be H. The velocity of light be C
2. Other frame that is stationary with respect to Moving frame.
Now, a beam of light travels straight from lamp at floor, strikes the
mirror at ceiling and returns to floor in the moving carriage.
. This is an Event in moving frame
The path of beam of Light is H distance up and H distance down. And
total time will be 2H/C in moving carriage.
The STR derives from this that time for this Event in moving carriage
will be 2H/C and in other frame stationary with respect to moving
frame, it will be2H/C*þ1+V2/C2
According to S.T.R., this difference in Time is real and people were
led to believe that one Twin in a space ship moving on with
relativistic velocity will remain younger than the other on Earth.
Fallacy of Derivations
The Time in moving frame as shown in above formula of STR does not
depend on its Velocity V but it depends on height of carriage. The
speed of Light C itself is constant. Hence if we go on increasing or
decreasing the velocity of Moving frame V, then its Time will not
decrease or increase as per above formula unless it be shown that
height of carriage will decrease or increase.
The Time in other frame will increase or decrease with
increase or decrease velocity of Moving frame V as shown by formula of
STR..
This may be accepted if there be only just these two frames in Cosmos.
There are infinite numbers of Moving frames with different velocities
and thus it is impossible to base Time in one frame on velocity of
other frame or frames.
Fallacy of Assumptions
The assumption that path of light in moving frame will be straight is
itself fallacious as shown here by some refinements in our Imaginary
Experiment.
Here the roof of carriage is transparent. Our lamp is capable of
emitting single Photon or any micro-particle and we are able to detect
it by one Observer at the place of mirror and by one Observer in outer
space in helicopter in line with lamp and inner observer.
Initially all the three-lamp, inner observer and outer observer are in
a line.
As soon as single photon is emitted, it goes straight up towards
roof and in the meantime, our inner observer (in place of mirror) is
shifted to a distance H*V/C thus single photon will not strike the
inner observer (mirror), it will cross the transparent roof almost
un-deflected and will be detected by outside observer.
Thus straight beam of light will not strike the mirror in carriage
moving with relativistic velocity, only oblique beam of light will
strike the mirror in carriage moving with relativistic velocity and
this time will be2H/C*þ1+V2/C2 and not 2H/C for such beams.
We must not assume that micro-particles or beam of light and X-rays
get deflected by movement of frame to the same extent as
macro-particles, bullet or ball, get deflected.
If beam of Light start getting affected by velocity of moving frame as
macro-particles are affected then
1. speed of moving bodies will be added to speed of Light
2. We will not be able to see objects moving away from us as all the
beams of Light will get deflected away from us.
Absolute Space/ Extra-Cosmic Space
We can understand the things though we may not be able to know or be
able to prove. Thus we can understand SpaceTimeInfinitum. We mean
Universe or Cosmos the whole composed of galaxies, stars and other
objects. We understand that there may or may not be Universe or Cosmos
but SpaceTimeInfinitum is Essential.
The Modern Physics starts itself from a Singularity at the Origin
followed by Expanding Universe and no Space and Time beyond this
Universe. This all is deliberate negation of what is obvious.
In its march of wild speculations, the existence of absolute space was
denied. It is now assumed that Space is secondary to expanding matter.
The word expansion means to occupy more space and thus there must be
already some space.
Let us take unit of matter as 'particle' and unit of space as
'point'. Let there be one particle and one point to begin with. If
both be expanding together then there be only one thing in cosmos. For
two particles to co-exist there must be at least three points. Thus we
need more space for variety of things to co-exist. We need Space beyond
Matter.
There are other possibilities to prove Essentiality of 'absolute
space ' or extra-cosmic space. If this Cosmos start shrinking and
then again expanding and this doing again and again? Is it not possible
for Cosmic ball to rotate or to move to-and-fro or to fall in one
direction? Or if there be more than one Cosmic ball? All this we can
understand in context of Absolute Space/ Extra-cosmic space.
In the Cosmos, there are two sets of Particles-
1. Macro-particles: These are affected by Gravity of nearby massive
objects and by velocity of moving frame.
2. Micro-particles: These are not affected much by Gravity of nearby
massive objects and by velocity of moving frame.
Thus Micro-particles and beams of Light and X-rays move straight in
Absolute Space or Extra-cosmic space . Thus it is possible to detect
displacement of moving bodies in context of Absolute Space/
Extra-cosmic space through some equipment, such as Michelson-Morley
Interferometer. We must find shift of fringes if the body is getting
displaced in Absolute Space / Extra-cosmic space. If we find no shift,
NULL result ,then that body is not getting displaced in Absolute Space/
Extra-cosmic space.
When Michelson-Morley Experiment was performed in early 20th Century on
surface of Earth and it gave NULL result then Special Theory of
Relativity came in the rescue of Copernican System-the Citadel of
Modern Science. And this followed by all wild speculations and
erroneous interpretations of distant and not-sure observations.
Motion of Earth
Diurnal Motion: day and Night are Observations
Foucault Pendulum and Falling of heavy Stone to somewhat East when
dropped from a height are Experiments performed.
Annual Motion: Changes in position of Stars and change in direction of
Starlight are Observations.
No Experiment on Earth could detect Earth's Displacement due to this
Annual Motion.
We have Observational Proofs of Earth moving with respect to Sun and
stars but we don't get any Experimental Proof.
The NULL result of Michelson-Morley experiment is the testimony.
This Paradox was explained by Relativity and since then Absolute Space
& Time became Taboo.
Alternative Cosmic Model
But there is a geo-specific solution to this paradox, not thought 100
years ago.
We hold a Special Clock with a single needle moving per Second. This
needle moves with respect to numbers on dial (as if Stars) and also
moves with respect to its center of attachment (as if Sun)
Now we will move the whole clock anti-clockwise so that needle always
remains aligned to some object (Ceiling Fan).
Thus this needle moves with respect to numbers on dial and its center
but remains undisplaced with respect to ceiling fan.
If there be a mini - observatory and a mini-laboratory then we will
record observational proof of displacement with respect to number on
dials and center
but we will record NULL result in all experiments because needle
remains undisplaced with respect to Ceiling Fan .
Here we can take the Clock as representing Cosmos . The Ceiling Fan
represents a fixed point in Absolute Space/ Extra-cosmic Space.
Thus we can detect whether any moving body is getting displaced with
respect to points of Extra-cosmic space or not. The NULL result of
Michelson-Morley Experiment signifies non-displacement of moving frame
with respect to points in Extra-cosmic space.
The displacement due to Diurnal motion of Earth on its axis is
experimentally detectable as by Foucault pendulum but displacement due
to Annual motion, approx.30 Km/Sec, with respect to Sun and stars is
experimentally not detected so far. The Displacement
due to this motion is effectively countered by simultaneous reverse
motion at different Gravitational levels -Sun, Galaxy, Local Group and
Higher level. Thus Earth remains un-displaced despite its motion with
respect to
Sun and Stars because of simultaneous motion of Sun, Galaxy, Local
Group
and some relevant portion or whole of Cosmos
This explains plenty of Observational proofs of Earth's motion with
respect to Sun and Stars but no experiment can detect its displacement
because Earth remains where it is despite its motion and therefore we
have NULL result of Michelson-Morley Experiment when performed on
surface of Earth.
Question is whether this Paradox of Experimental NULL result is a
GENERAL PHENOMENON or a GEO-SPECIFIC PHENOMENON.
Thus Michelson-Morley Experiments when performed on other Cosmic
Bodies will settle the issue.
You've been proven wrong in another thread on the same subject. Are you
daft?
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