Re: On The Measurement Of Speed


"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Mon, 29 May 2006 14:00:33 +0000, kenseto wrote:


"The Ghost In The Machine" <ewill3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Herewith several problems for the assemblage -- you know who you are.

[1] I travel from Atlanta to Boston, then back to Atlanta. Assuming
2200
miles total [*] and 44 hours driving time (not counting stops for lunch
and sleeping), how do I calculate my average speed?

[2] A friend travels from Chicago to Detroit, meets a friend there,
then
travels back. Assuming 280 miles and 5 hours, 36 minute driving time
(not
counting stopping for lunch with said friend), how do I calculate his
or
her average speed?

[3] A light beam travels along a straight path of length 1 km,
reflecting
off a mirror at the far end, and triggering a sensor both when it
leaves
the laser, and another sensor when it returns. If the sensors are
triggered 6.6712819 ns apart, how do I calculate the light's average
speed?

This is great. I assume that the length of 1 km is measured with a ruler
(or
measuring tape). But sadly the results for such a TWLS measurement
doesn't
yield a value of TWLS equal to c. That's why they had to define TWLS
equal
to c by redefining the length of a meter= 1/299,792,458 light-second.

Ken Seto

http://www.mel.nist.gov/div821/museum/timeline.htm

is probably as good as any. Prior to the current definition of
1/299792458th of the distance light travels in 1 second (1983), there were
a fair number of meter definitions, some of them more accurate than
others.

In any event, one must remember that Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, and Detroit
are all *moving* with respect to the E-matrix, the absolute luminiferous
aether, the origin of the Universe, the Sun, and/or of course the driver
(which for the last is of almost negligible effect).

The prior version of the meter was apparently slightly longer, resulting
in a lightspeed measurement of 299,792457.4 m/s.


http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/measure_c.html

This is not a TWLS measurement. It is a definition for the speed of light
based of the assumption that what the grating measures is the wavelength for
a wave (frequency). A TWLS measurement is done with one clock and the
distance between the mirror and the clock is measured with a physical ruler.
No direct TWLS measurement yield a vale for TWLS close to c as asserted by
the runts of the SRians.

Ken Seto


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