Re: Does a snail experience relativistic effects?


N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
Dear Sue:

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N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
Dear Sue:

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crapaccount1138@xxxxxxxx wrote:
Sue: I appreciate your point, but does it apply to the
*rate* at which time passes, rather than simply the
total amount of time required?

Rate (ratio) and time have virtually the same definiton.
For example, you can't speak of the rate of the rate
or the time of the time nor can you explain how the
expresion rate of the time differs from either. t/t = 1

The Hubble "constant", which has (ad reducto) units
of 1/t is changing with time.

The time it takes to cross the Pacific is changing too
but we don't the put special clocks in faster vessels or
vessels that cross tectonic plates.

This is a natural process, not an altered method of conveyance.
Expansion at the time of CMBR was very small, then it sped up,
slowed down again, then sped up to now.

That sounds dangerously close to a suggestion that
Mossbauer experiments and MRI scanners would stop
working if the Hubble expansion should stop.

I would encourage some scrutiny of the various cosmological
models on the basis of solid data we have about gas
density vs. dielectric constant before changing things
like electron mass or alpha.

<< 13 Dec 2005 - A new preprint claims to have achieved
a ,much higher accuracy in measuring the variation in the
fine structure constant, alpha. The previous claim to have
seen a variation, which was viewed with skepticism, is
based on the red data points, while the blue points show
the 21 cm results and the new paper gives the black point
which is consistent with no variation in the physical constants. >>
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm


Don't worry, I can't get myself unpainted out of that corner
either... ;>)

I threw out the baby, the bathwater and kept the dielectric
properties of hydrogen gas. So any space that
cosmologists can concoct that supports the existance of
hydrogen has a constant fine structure constant and
clocks just like the ones at NPL. The "truthyness" ;-) of
BB cosmology has no bearing on the obligation to resolve
a local conundrum.

Hubble expansion has perhaps been observed between the Earth and
the Moon. The baby, bathwater and all may be flowing back in
your back door.

No... that is the septic system again.


If unresolved, the tools to study more distant spaces
don't work properly.

Time will tell. ;>)

Time can't tell if you keep dorking with it. :o)

Sue...


David A. Smith

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