Re: Why make physics more difficult...
- From: dubious@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Bilge)
- Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:54:08 GMT
Henry Haapalainen:
Why make physics more difficult than it is?
I dunno henry, why?
Let's look at some facts.
If we need mathematical explanations, then Newton's theory is a splendid
one.
Aside from the obvious logical problems with your notion that
the existence of mathematical formalism obviates any necessity
for correctness, netwonian physics doesn't even touch on E&M or
the strong force or weak force.
<drum roll>
If we need explanations to understand things correctly, then we have to
keep looking for something better.
</drum roll>
Fortunately, such better theories have been found. Those theories
go by the names ``general relativity'' and ``quantum field theory.''
Not only do these theories give quantitative results which agree
with all experimental data at the level of precision acheivable
with current technology, but these theories offer an intuitive
physical picture of nature.
We must understand that every atom in the universe can not communicate
with all the other atoms without any delay, and all the time.
Attraction between masses cannot be the answer.
What was the question?
Curvature of space and free-fall make physics much more easier to
understand.
That is ``spacetime'' henry, not ``space.''
Most of Newton's maths work fine, but explanations are different.
We have to thank Einstein for this new idea. Maybe Einstein
thought that a transmission mechanism is not needed in his idea of
space-time. But that was not the case.
Oh really? What mechanism do you propose for transmitting information
that some line is a straight line?
Attraction between an atom and space seems to be even more difficult
than attraction between masses. Frankly, it's impossible.
Frankly, I have no idea what that means, so whether what you just
said is possible or impossible is irrelevant.
But there is one possibility left, accelerating motion of space.
I have an experiment we can perform to test your theory. I happen to
have at my disposal, a cylindrical vacuum chamber which measures about
2 meters in length and 2.5 meters in diameter. Just as soon as the
cryopump compressors arrive and I get them installed, I'd be willing
to put you inside the chamber and pump it down to about 10^-8 torr
(so long as you don't outgas forever). You can wave your arms (hopefully
for longer than it takes to reach the crossover from the mechanical pumps)
and if I see any space accelerating, I'll write down the observation and
credit you posthumously.
That possibility leeds to answers which are surprising, but we cannot
repeal them with any researc results.
Then it's a darned good thing I've decided to donate a few hours
of system time to let you spend a few minutes getting experimental
data.
I wanted to be sure of that, and I promised money for any discovery.
Those have not been found.
You have promised money for a lot of things without ever paying
off. Fortunately, I realize that you are basically dishonest, so
I am donating the time you will spend inside the chamber plus the
costs associated with cleaning the chamer and regenerating the
pumps.
.
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