Re: This is What Einstein Actually Did.


kenseto wrote:
"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:29:35 GMT, "kenseto" <kenseto@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"PD" <TheDraperFamily@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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kenseto wrote:
"Henri Wilson" <HW@..> wrote in message
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Before Einstein, Lorentz's aether theory satisfactorily explained
the
MMX
null
result via his LTs. However, in spite of this, the null result was
still
taken
as sound evidence that no aether exists. That is still the official
verdict.

It is a fact, that because of Lorentz's (Fitzgerald's) supposed
'contractions',
it is a feature of LET that any observer moving through the aether
will
always
MEASURE the OW speed of light as being c.


This is wrong. OWLS never been measured.

Of course it's been measured.

Now, you may object that it's not been measured using a distance
measured with sticks and two clocks at either end, but that's not the
only way to measure OWLS.

Deciding to measure it some way other than the way you want it to be
measured is probably a good decision.

ROTFLOL....Here's what you are saying: We dont want to measure OWLS the
normal way. We invented a new way to measure OWLS so that the result is
guaranteed to be c.

Ken Seto



There is a very simple way to establish the value of light speed wrt all
objects in any one frame.

Just measure TWLS. It has the same value.

No this is an assumption. There is a reason why the SRians refused to
measure OWLS directly. If they are confident that OWLS=TWLS=c why don't they
measure OWLS directly to make sure that it is so?


If you are so confident that OWLS =/= TWLS why don't you measure OWLS
directly to make sure that it is so?

Now, when you answer, "Because I don't have the money, and I can't
justify doing the experiment to the people who DO have the money," then
you should consider that experimental physicists are in the very same
boat. They do not have the money, and they certainly cannot justify
doing the experiment to the people who do have the money. If *you*
can't justify it, there certainly is no way anyone else is going to be
able to justify it. There is good reason for that, of course -- the
experiment is not justifiable. You haven't been able to justify it,
either, have you?

PD

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