Re: Einstein interpretation of gravitational redshift is misleading


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Einstein interpretation of gravitational redshift is misleading
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SNIP

OKUN:

on the one hand the phenomenon is explained through the behaviour
of clocks which run the faster the higher they are located in the
potential, whereas the energy and frequency of the propagating photon
do not change with height. The light thus appears to be redshifted
relative to the frequency of the clock.

On the other hand the phenomenon is alternatively discussed
(even in some authoritative texts) in terms of an energy loss of
a photon as it overcomes the gravitational attraction of the massive
body. This second approach operates with notions such as the
"gravitational mass" or the "potential energy" of a photon and
we assert that it is misleading.

That is correct.


SNIP

LUTGENS:

It is easy to show that the interpretation according to which
"clocks run the faster the higher they are located in the
potential, whereas the energy and frequency of the propagating photon
do not change with height" is wrong.

No, that is correct when using a universal reference frame; and the above
article explained it rather well! (It appeared in the AJP if I'm not
mistaken).


LUTGENS:

This proof falsifies Einstein's view:
Excerpt:
"The gravitational redshift is a classical effect of Einstein's General
Relativity (GR), one predicted by him [1] well before that theory
was created [2] (for the historical background, see e.g., [3]).
Phenomenologically one can simply affirm that the frequency of light
emitted by two identical atoms is smaller for the atom which sits
deeper in the gravitational potential.

? As long as they are observed, Phenomena *can't* be falsified...


Harald


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