Re: Einsteim Fudged (E = m c^2)
- From: "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:18:24 GMT
<vergon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1155830645.786692.318280@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Koobee Wublee wrote:
I tried to post a message at the following moderated newsgroup.
** sci.physics.research
The message is appended at the bottom. The response I got back from
Igor Khavkine, the co-moderator, is the following.
Could anyone point out where the personal attack is? The closest would
be Einstein himself, but he is dead and ceased to be a person anymore.
His ideology is what I am discussing.
This incidence is merely a form of censorship.
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Unfortunately, the article you posted to sci.physics.research is
inappropriate for the newsgroup because it contains personal attacks.
Please keep the discussion civil.
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Sincerely,
Igor Khavkine, sci.physics.research co-moderator
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On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 04:10:11PM +0000, Koobee Wublee wrote:
"Murray Arnow" <a...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Einstein didn't plagiarize. He did reference others. His most important
ideas weren't plagiarized: the Principle of Relativity (a concept accepted
by most physicists) and the constancy of the speed of light as measured by
all observers in inertial reference frames (an idea unique to Einstein).
Principle of Relativity started with Galileo. Constancy of the speed
of light was first proposed by Voigt. Lorentz Transform was first
written
down by Larmor. I still don't see your claim of Einstein's originality
in this.
These two remarkably simple postulates are responsible for the derivation
of the Lorentz transformation. Till Einstein, there wasn't a physical
basis for using the LT to connect the physical laws between observers in
different reference frames (before SR, the transformations connecting
different observers moving relative to each other were thought to be
Galilean).
If Larmor was able to derive LT, according to you, he must have used up
these two postulates. Your claim is so subjective. SR and LET remain
merely independent interpretations to the mathematics of LT.
Using the LT in conjunction with how an observer on a uniformly radiating
body, such as a star, measures the energy radiated by that body and the
energy seen radiated from the body by a uniformly moving observer,
Einstein was able to derive the now-famous E=mc^2.
Please show how Einstein derived (E = m c^2). I claim he did so by
making a series of errors in which he must have known the answer before
hand.
This would make him a plagiarist.
I have over simplified here, but this is what Einstein did in his two 1905
papers. He also discussed how time was impacted--a new concept. The
meaning of simultaneity was no longer simple. (Galelean transformations
assume all observers measure the same time.)
Relative simultaneity was actually Poincare's idea. That led to the
absurdity of Twin's Paradox.
[...]
An excellent book on this subject is "Einstein 1905, The Standard of
Greatness", John S. Rigden, Harvard University Press, 2005. Rigden
disposes of the Einstein detractors in this very interesting read. It's
written for to be readily understood by the non-specialist.
Or best yet, truly understanding LT will unlock the mystery. The so
called historians can foul the history and mutilate historic documents,
but
they cannot change the mathematics. The forensic of the history is
indeed residing in the very mathematics.
Vergon
Yes?
Talking to yourself again?
Where are the CAPITALS?
I had a professor once who asked "What do you get if you send a
bonehead to college?"
Answer: "An educated bonehead."
Sci.physics Research is a misnomer. They are only interested IN WHAT
THEY THINK.
If a post is not in their lexicon -- no matter how well constructed --
it is turned down with a bunch of lame excuses. Those A-holes will take
physics nowhere because what they prefer happens to be a dead end.
My advice, ignore them.
That's a hilariously cheep and lame advice from (and to) someone
who has no chance of getting noticed by them in the first place ;-)
Excellent, as a joke.
Dirk Vdm
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