Re: Question about Hawking Radiation

"Edward Green" <spamspamspam3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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FrediFizzx wrote:

You are mixing up "real" with virtual particles and anti-particles.
An
anti-electron (positron) is just as "real" as an electron. The pair
near the event horizon is virtual. When one of the particles is
"sucked" into the black hole, then the other one of the pair becomes
real. It doesn't matter which one is sucked into the black hole.
The
escaping particle goes off to infinity. Where did its mass come
from?
It could only come from the black hole thus reducing the black
hole's
mass. However, all of this is unsubstantiated conjecture but seems
reasonable.

Well, that's debatable.

Sure. Ever since Hawking came up with it. ;-) If LHC sees signatures
of mini quantum black holes as some physicists expect, then Hawking's
conjecture might be indirectly testable with an accelerator of more
power.

From my understanding, the event horizon is only a special
mathematical
surface from the point of view of an observer outside and stationary
wrt the black hold -- assuming that language makes sense. Locally,
for
a free-falling observer, physics at the event horizon is just like
physics every place else in the universe. So the
particle/antiparticle
creation dance, in which the particles occasionally can't find their
way back together, and steal mass from somewhere to continue in
existence, must be going on everywhere.

Interesting. That idea somewhat coincides with a constant mass-energy
creation hypothesis presented in John Polasek's "Dual Space" book. A
dual spacetime scenario can allow constant creation wrt our perspective.
No laws of physics are broken because the mass-energy is simply coming
into our spacetime from the other spacetime. The boundary between them
is our Universe's "now". An event horizon. I highly suspect John is
right about this since it is compatible with our Quantum Vacuum Charge
"Spin Matrix" scenario.

FrediFizzx

Quantum Vacuum Charge papers;
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.pdf
or postscript
http://www.vacuum-physics.com/QVC/quantum_vacuum_charge.ps
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0601110
http://www.vacuum-physics.com

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