Re: The Twin Paradox explained from the moving twin ?


"Nicolaas Vroom" <nicolaas.vroom@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| "Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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| > "Nicolaas Vroom" <nicolaas.vroom@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| >> Question:
| >> Is it possible to explain the Twin Experiment from the moving point of
| >> view ?
| >>
| >> IMO this is not possible.
| >>
| >> When the two Observers meet they realize that there clocks are not the
| >> same.
| >> To be more specific: The clock of the moving observer runs behind.
| >> The clock of the moving observer runs slow.
| >>
| >> To explain the Observer at rest will say:
| >> Look on my clock I read 10000 counts.
| >> Based on the speed v (Lorentz Transformation) gamma is 0.5
| >> That means your clock should read 5000 counts.
| >> Which is what we measure. qed.
| >>
| >> The question is: Is it possible to explain this also from the
| >> point of view of moving observer ?
| >>
| >> IMO this it not possible.
| >> The moving Observer has to accept what the Observer at rest tells him.
| >>
| >> For more details goto : http://users.telenet.be/nicvroom/dirk3.htm
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| > From that page:
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| > | 1. When the clock of A reaches 1 time unit (t=1), A issues a light
| > signal to B.
| > | 2. When B receives this signal, this defines the turnpoint P, B
| > returns back home
| >
| > Up to here everythig is okay.
| > Now the trouble starts:
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| > | 3. The distance from A to point P is x.
| > | 4. The time for the signal to go from A to B is t
| >
| > So you want the event [B2] to have coordinates (t,x). Bad idea.
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| > | 5. x = ct = (1+t)*v
| > | 6. ct - vt = v
| > | 7. t = v/(c-v) time units
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| > This is wrong.
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| This is not wrong.

It may be a typo....
6. ct - vt = v ...........as it was
6. ct - vt = x ...........corrected
7. t = x/(c-v)

That might be what is confusing poor pathetic moron Dork.
He's not very good at arithmetic or algebra, you see.

Anyway, what Dork wants you to believe is this:
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Smart/LT.gif

The back of the train stops, the train stretches along the fence 80 units
in 16 usec, then the light comes back 20 units in 4 usec so the front
of the train stops to let the back catch up.

Stationary frame: x/(c-v) + x/(c+v) = 20 usec
Moving frame: x'/c + x'/c = 16 usec

Gamma = 20/16 = 1.25 for v = 0.6c

t1= 16 usec
t2 = 4 usec

Half of [t1 + t2] = t1.
Half of 20 = 16

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Rocket/eq22.A.GIF

That is what Dork believes, he is a staunch catholic relativist and
he wants you to come to the lurve of the Lord Jesus, aka Albert Einstein.
You see, the second coming of Christ wasn't immediately recognised
and we'll have to wait for the third *** as we all get fucked in
the arse again. Well... perhaps not "we".

Repeat after me: The Lord is my Shepherd -- I am a sheep. Baaaah...

Androcles





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