Re: Interesting Claim

In sci.physics.relativity, Sorcerer
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on Tue, 03 Oct 2006 10:01:47 GMT
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| In sci.physics.relativity, actionintegral@xxxxxxxxx
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| wrote
| on 2 Oct 2006 13:53:06 -0700
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| >
| > The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
| >> Furthermore, spacetime has a well-defined absolute
| >> coordinate system
| >
| > therefore
| >> lightspeed isn't constant.
| >
| > Hi GITM,
| >
| > I read you response carefully , but it tripped my up in a couple
| > places. I excerpted the
| > phrases that I don't understand above.
| >
| > What exactly is an absolute coordinate system?
|
| Good question. Best I can do is a coordinate system where
| everyone can agree what time an event occurred, after
| compensating for light propagation.


Bad answer.
You said it was well defined, and when asked for a definition
you give an ill-defined "best you can do". Perhaps you should begin
by defining 'coordinate' and 'system' separately.
What exactly is a coordinate?

What exactly is a number?



| (The absolute length comes into being because the time for
| light to get from A to B is L / v, where v is lightspeed.


Analyze:
The absolute length comes into being because the time for
light to get from A to B is L / (L/t), where L/t is lightspeed.

L/t is not lightspeed. v_l is lightspeed. (v_l can be any value at all.)


Reducing to plain English:
The absolute length comes into being because the time is t.

This is your concept of "well-defined", is it?



| For SR v is always C, but SR doesn't have an absolute
| coordinate system anyway. Of course L depends on the absolute
| time as well, in such a system.)

Length depends on time in SR.

That's the problem.

"If we place x'=x-vt, it is clear that a point at rest in the system k must
have a system of values x', y, z, independent of time. " - SR.
Length does not depend on time in SR.
Do you see any contradiction here ... erm... fuckwit?

Plenty. The length is obviously absolute and unchangeable, except for
the (-tvx, -tvy, -tvz) for some vx, vy, vz (in a four-dimensional
spacetime coordinate system). or -vt (in a two-dimensional system).

Therefore SR is bunk, Planet Androcles exists, and H. Wilson's
luminiferous aether are correct.


[snip crap about spacetime]

| #191, ewill3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Linux. Because it's there and it works.
| Windows. It's there, but does it work?
Yes, it works fine.

Newtonian Mechanics. Because it's there and it works.
Special Reality. It's there, but it doesn't work.

If we all decided to have a piss-up and chose a brewery for a venue,
you couldn't organise it.

Not my speciality. In any event, SR has not been disproven by you;
you'll have to try a little harder.


Androcles.


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