Re: Hi Folks, Pmb is back! :)


<pmb61@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1164226643.350093.63170@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Ken S. Tucker wrote:
| > Hi Pete, hope you'll stay awhile.
|
| Forever this time. I the past 8-9 years of posting on the web I've
| learned ho to except things I disagree with and let them go regarldess
| of how many people I think will end up with the wrong idea later. This
| was my main problem. I felt responsible if I let clear errors slide.
| But I won't bend easy since its these kinds of issues which made me
| look very deeply into very basic concepts.
|
| > Lately a few of us have been considering forming
| > a new moderated group to encourage originality
| > and speculation that is discouraged in sp.research,
| > which is an educational group.
|
| Actually I believe that it is a research group which ended up being a
| teaching group.
|
| > The steering commitee is designated the Advanced
| > Communications Research (ARC) eList, send me
| > an email if you want to join.
|
| Sounds great! It'd be nice to finally have a say as to how a forum is
| moderated. I hope we are mature enough to let the rules be flexible so
| that we can find a good set of rules through trial and error. I will
| join if everything is done to prevent insults in any way shape of form.
| Sound fare?

Ouch. I wouldn't mind fair, but you want people to pay? :-)
Joking aside, there is no known cure for bigotry.
"Be reasonable, see it my way".
You remind me of Draper, Brown.
Draper:
I have to admit that I am demoralized at the moment.

I had hoped that we could fight ignorance with a proactive rather
than a reactive approach, but this is clearly the improper forum for
that. A quick survey of the length of threads initiated by or
drifting
to nonsense compared to the length of threads based on sound thinking
reveals the true interest in the proposal.

While it would be a useful project to contribute to the FAQ, the
intent was to educate in the context of discussion, a virtual
"classroom" if you will. There's no point in contributing to a
reference that none of the "students" will read or attempt to learn
from. The intention was to focus on *exactly* what is wrong in
someone's thinking (which varies from person to person), set it
straight, and then make progress from there.

I had high hopes -- really -- that perhaps one misguided soul would
read something sensible and say, "Oh... Really?...Oh. I see I was
confused. OK, I get it now. Now what about...?" My head knew better,
my heart does not.

[sitting in the duck blind, waiting with a shotgun for a duck to
appear]




| Is so then count me in. I had a major crash where my C
| drive crashed and I had to replace it and start over from scratch. This
| means that I lost my address book. Please send me your e-mail address
| to my permanent e-mail address which is
| peter102560_deletethis@xxxxxxxxxxx
|
| > It's designed to be a much more vibrant group that's
| > very much needed.
| > Best Regards
| > Ken
|
| I look forward to working more closely with you Ken. How's about we
| create a web site with the basics of the physics and math on it. That
| will give us a baseline. I'd be glad to do the work myself with input
| from you and others. Have you invited Bill Hobba? He's a nice guy who
| will be learning more math in the future. I hope he studies
| "Geometrical Methods for Applied Physics" by Schutz. You should study
| this text as well. We actually should form an e-mail study group and it
| will make it easier for all of us. It wouldn't be bad to have Tom
| Roberts there too. He's certainly knowledgeable on the physics. Of
| course we'd have to edit out his capital letters and his shrugs so as
| not to alienate new commers.
|

New commas are not "aloud".
Yes, please take Roberts.
"This is PHYSICS, not math or logic, and "proof" is completely irrelevant." - Roberts


| Send me an e-mail and lets talk.
|
| Pete
|
.

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