Re: Black hole questions



Dear sal:

"sal" <pragmatist@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.11.23.03.01.59.538035@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:12:19 -0700, N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)
wrote:

Dear sal:

"sal" <pragmatist@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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....
No it does not. It takes infinite (Schwarzschild) time
for anything, including light, to reach the event horizon.

Nonsense.
http://hermes.physics.adelaide.edu.au/~dkoks/Faq/Relativity/BlackHoles/fall_in.html
... "finite proper time"

Not nonsense, and your reference doesn't contradict
me. I said "infinite (Schwarzschild) time". I didn't say
"infinite proper time".

The proper time *is* evaluated in Schwarzchild coordinates. What
you don't say, but leave as an exercise for the OP, is that you
really mean:
It takes infinite (Schwarzschild) time
for anything, including light, to [be seen to] reach
the event horizon.

.... which requires light to climb back from the event horizon.

Your statement unmodified clearly states that the object *never
reaches the horizon*. When in fact it is the outside observer
that never sees it reach the horizon. It is a really big
difference.

....
This isn't rocket science. Wait, maybe it is? ;>)

Only if we get much, much better rockets than
what we've got now!

Amen to that one.

David A. Smith


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