Re: Using the Sagnac Effect to measure Absolute Velocity




"Sue..." <suzysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1164959501.573268.156100@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Sue..." <suzysewnshow@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1164825029.219257.29620@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > |
| > | Sorcerer wrote:
| > | [...]
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Funny thing about that. Increasing the mass of the inertial
| > | > | > | coupling device is the same way you wanted to make your
| > | > | > | flintlock more effective than my glass shooter. :-)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Meet me at dawn, back to back, twenty paces, turn and fire when
| > | > | > ready. Or you can run, I'll just fire. I promise not to shoot until
| > | > | > you've taken 40 paces. If wise you'll keep on running and reduce
| > | > | > the energy of my shot. Run fast enough and it'll become negative
| > | > | > in your FoR. Run toward me fast enough and I'll save powder.
| > | > | > BTW, E = h(nu) for a photon torpedo.
| > | > | > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doppler/star2ship.gif
| > | > | > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doppler/ship2star.gif
| > | > |
| > | > | Doppler/ship2star.gif is correct boths times you posted it.
| > | > | Hopefully the other version is in for refit
| > | >
| > | > No it isn't. It's the PoR, dumb relativist. You'll be agreeing
| > | > with Einstein next, shithead.
| > | -
| > | > "The Apparent Incompatibility of the Law of Propagation
| > | > of Light with the Principle of Relativity"
| > | << By means of similar considerations based on observations
| > | of double stars, the Dutch astronomer De Sitter was also able
| > | to show that the velocity of propagation of light cannot depend
| > | on the velocity of motion of the body emitting the light. >>
| > | http://www.bartleby.com/173/7.html
| > |
| > | I assume that is the point you are trying to drive home.
| > | You are making a convincing case. I'll have to sleep on it.
| > |
| >
| > There is only one point. The PoR cannot be violated.
| > To create the twins
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doppler/star2ship.gif
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Doppler/ship2star.gif
| > I used identical images. The third frame of reference in which one
| > or the other of star and ship is at rest is only in your mind, I can choose
| > either.
| > DeSitter and Einstein were high-fiving each other, and BOTH are wrong.
| > The problem starts here, in 1782:
| > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Algol/Algol.htm
| > and then, like a bad rumour, it propagates and explodes into complete
| > nonsense.
|
| How does it work when you consider a real space?
[...]

| Learn some physics:

PHY 387K:
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/jk1/lectures/node8.html

-- Richard Fitzpatrick 2002-05-18

Examine equation (36) at the end of node 8
It says the faster you travel, the longer it will take to arrive.
If you travel at the speed of light you'll arrive at your destination
in no time at all, but you'll take forever to get home again.

If you think a politician knows how to govern a country because he
kisses babies at election time then you'll probably think a physicist
understands physics because he writes papers.

"I'm not a physicist, but I play one at university". --Richard Fitzpatrick

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark

A line from the play Hamlet, by William Shakespeare
Something is rotten in the state of Texas.

Learn some physics, Sue. The faster you go, the LESS time it
takes to get there.


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