Re: relativity vs velocity addition


Sorcerer yazdi:
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| Sorcerer yazdi:
| > <lkoluk2003@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1165919683.448586.288430@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | It seems that the assumption that the maximum distances between the
| > | twins during inbound and outbound part are equal is not generally true.
| > | I.e. the most general formula is t1=x1/v1 and t2=x2/v2 where x1 is not
| > | equal to x2. In this case, the only explanation is that the clock rates
| > | of both twins are the same even from the point of view of the twins.
| > |
| > | On the other hand, the relativity principle is fully compatible with
| > | this. I copied the following from my text in another threat.
| > | "Each tick in a clock is an event and an event's observed time can be
| > | different from time dilation. For example one can set a clock by using
| > | a light pulse
| > | and two mirrors.
| >
| > The second is the duration of 9 192 631 770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the cesium 133 atom.
| >
| > http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/second.html
| >
| > See anything about setting a counter with two mirrors?
| >
| > Send a caesium atom to Proxima Centauri and back, COUNTING transitions.
| >
| > The count will match an identical caesium atom that remains here.
| >
| > During the journey it will *appear* not to match due to
| >
| > transitions being "in flight", aka Doppler shift.
| >
| > There are no missing or additional counts, hence no count dilation,
|
| Ok. But what is the mechanism behind this light emmitting?

Strike a match. That emits light.


Does the
| frequency relate to distance/speed relation?

No, frequency relates to the inverse time law, f = 1/t.
Blind Poe can explain inverse laws to you.


| For example is the
| frequency proportional to (d1-d2)/(v1-v2) where d1&v1 is the radius of
| an orbital and the speed of an electron in this orbital respectively
| and d2&v2 is the radius&electron speed at the orbital where the
| electron drops to after it emits a photon?

No.

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| >
| > hence no time dilation.
| >
| > Einstein was an idiot.
| >
|
| I don't think

Of course you don't. Nobody ever said you did. That's
why I have to tell you Einstein was an idiot, you can't work
it out for yourself. You are an idiot too, you CAN'T think.

| so.

Exactly.



| His mistake

If he made a mistake he was an idiot.

| was to assume the light speed is the same
| for all inertial frames


Einstein never said it was. That's your mistake.



| and the others vary respectively in the
| relation light speed=distance/duration. However, the relativity
| principle requires that the duration is the same for all inertial
| frames and the others vary respectively.


What relativity principle?

Read this, published in the British Journal of Theoretical Physics
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/PoR/PoR.htm


It seems that you are either an idiot who does not have an ability to
grasp what I am asking or your purpose of writing here is different
than mine. In either case, discussion is a loss of time.

Lokman Kolukisa

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