Re: Again and again about the result of MMX


vps137@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
"""Tom Roberts ÐÉÓÁÌ(Á):
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vps137@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
It is shown http://vps137.narod.ru/articles5a.html that the MMX
as the key experiment in the affirmation of the theory
of relativity has not a suffecient sensibility to fix the velocity of
the Earth movement around the Sun.

I cannot read the Russian.
The note above mentioned is on English

The MMX is indeed an "affirmation" of Special Relativity, insofar as the
measurement is in agreement with the prediction of SR.

The MMX does not measure "the velocity of the Earth movement around the
Sun", it measures fringe shifts related to the anisotropy in the
round-trip speed of light. Using the then-current aether theory, it puts
a limit of 7.5 km/sec on the movement of the earth relative to the
aether -- that is significantly smaller than the earth's 30 km/s orbital
speed.


Tom Roberts
I made addition. I found just now that S. Bryant
(http://www.relativitychallenge.com/index.htm) has been revised the
methods of analysis and shown the right value of velocity. He also
refers on the experiment made by Miller, 1933 with the same data.

The experimental method was fine but the underlying astronomical
principles for which the experiment was aimed was not.

http://astrosun2.astro.cornell.edu/academics/courses//astro201/sidereal.htm

If you try to put orbital motion with a constant .986 degree orbital
displacement in an elliptical framework you get the ugly spectacle of
the Earth covering a greater orbital distance at the aphelion and less
at the perihelion,something which is at complete variance to Keplerian
orbital geometry.

You can clearly see how axial rotation to celestial sphere geometry
morphed into orbital motion to an aether/absolute space,as relativists
would have it, but you certainly cannot dump an aether on Isaac,at
least not without suffering from a severe reading disability -

"The fictitious matter which is imagined as filling the whole of space
is of no use for explaining the phenomena of Nature, since the motions
of the planets and comets are better explained without it, by means of
gravity; and it has never yet been explained how this matter accounts
for gravity. The only thing which matter of this sort could do, would
be to interfere with and slow down the motions of those large celestial
bodies, and weaken the order of Nature; and in the microscopic pores of
bodies, it would put a stop to the vibrations of their parts which
their heat and all their active force consists in. Further, since
matter of this sort is not only completely useless, but would actually
interfere with the operations of Nature, and weaken them, there is no
solid reason why we should believe in any such matter at all.
Consequently, it is to be utterly rejected." NEWTON 1704

No offense to the guys in the early 20th century and the wonderful
fable they created,how they tried to escape the horrible
mechanistic,calendrically driven solar system of Newton,and how they
looked good even though they expanded on the original Newtonian
concepts but this is the 21st century and I owe no allegiance to a
17th century numbskull or the diseased minds of his 20th century
followers,at least in matters of celestial structure and motion.

Newton is alive and has put you in your graves at least intellectually
and intuitively.Personally I would not wish to exist in that miserable
condition but I know too well that it is mesmerising and hard to break
that spell. I only wish humanity had a chance to bypass you and get to
see real astronomy and what the real insights and methods are.

.

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