Re: Simultaneous events experiment
- From: "Sorcerer" <Headmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 09:58:14 GMT
"bergeron" <badd_xi2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1167030947.127019.189800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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| David wrote:
| > I don't understand how to explain the following experiment using
| > Einstein's notions of simultaneous events.
|
| Of course you don't. In order to understand the replies you
| receive, you would first need to READ them.
He does and he answers them, CUNT.
*plonk*
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| > I have an ideal laser at x=0,y=0 and a target centered at x=L and y=0.
| > The target extends in the y and z directions but is always
| > perpendicular to the x-axis. The laser is pointed at the center of the
| > target. I fire the laser at the target. After the laser hits the
| > target, when I bring the target into my lab, I find that a perfect
| > circle is burned into the target by the laser beam. I reposition the
| > target at different x coordinates and repeat the experiment. I find
| > the burn pattern is always a perfect circle, but not necessarily the
| > same size circle.
| > I then move the target to x=L and y=D. The target is
| > perpendicular to the x-axis. I point the laser at the center of the
| > target. The beam burns a pattern into the target. When I examine the
| > target in my lab I find that the burn pattern is no longer a perfect
| > circle. If the target is nomal to the x-axis, for the burn pattern to
| > be a perfect circle, the target must be on the x-axis as the laser
| > is.
| > Now I do an experiment where both the laser and target move with
| > the same velocity in the Y direction. I find that if the laser fires
| > when it crosses the x-axis and the target center and the center of the
| > laser beam both cross the x-axis at the same time as measured in my
| > inertial frame, the burn pattern on the target remains a circle when
| > the target is examined in my lab. I find that if the laser and target
| > cross the x-axis at different times, the burn pattern is no longer a
| > perfect circle. I realize this is simply the same experiment
| > performed in a different inertial reference frame. (note when the
| > target is moving in the Y direction, per Einstein I will not measure
| > the pattern to be a circle, but when it is brought into my lab, that
| > is brought into my inertial reference frame, it will be a circle)
| > Now for me to determine whether or not the laser and target
| > crossed the x-axis simultaneously as measured in my frame, I just
| > examine the burn pattern in my lab. If the burn pattern is a perfect
| > circle, I know that the laser and target crossed the x-axis at the
| > same time.
| > I don't see how someone moving along the x axis with velocity V
| > relative to my frame can come to a different conclusion. He does the
| > same experiments, and comes to the same conclusion about the burn
| > pattern. He can examine the burn pattern in his lab. If the burn
| > pattern is a perfect circle, he knows that the laser and target both
| > crossed the x-axis simultaneously.
| > But Einstein's theory says that if the laser and target cross the
| > x-axis simultaneously at different points along the x-axis as measured
| > in my frame, then these same events will not be simultaneous to
| > someone who is moving along the x-axis with velocity V relative to my
| > frame. But our experiment shows that we can look at a single piece of
| > data (the burn pattern) and determine whether or not the events were
| > simultaneous or not. Somehow as this target board is transported
| > into different frames, the burn pattern must change.
| > Please explain how that happens.
| > Thanks,
| > David Seppala
|
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