Re: Perihelion of Mercury question


"Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message news:srlip25f80nl75qduhb20pk6du4qlvck5o@xxxxxxxxxx
| On 1 Jan 2007 02:26:54 -0800, "Jerry" <Cephalobus_alienus@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
|
| >fritzius@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
| >> Jerry wrote:
| >> > fritzius@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
| >> > > Jerry wrote:
| >> > > > The four papers which John Fox cites as providing good evidence
| >> > > > against emission theories include:
| >> > > >
| >> > >Snip
| >> > >
| >> > > > 2) Alvager et al, 1966
| >> > > > http://mysite.verizon.net/cephalobus_alienus/papers/Alvager_et_al_1964.pdf
| >> > >
| >> > > Alvager et al do not state how it was determined that the 6 Gev
| >> > > Gammas were in fact emitted by the fast moving mesons rather
| >> > > than being emitted by the more or less stationary nuclei that they
| >> > > had hit.
| >> >
| >> > Via what reaction path would you postulate this alternate source of
| >> > high energy gamma rays? The reaction products of protons impinging on
| >> > beryllium targets are extremely well characterized, and the decay of
| >> > neutral pi mesons is the only known source of high energy gammas.
| >> >
| >>
| >> Sorry for taking so long to get back on this.
| >>
| >> I was going to speculate that the emission sources of the 6 GeV
| >> gammas were not necessarily the fast moving mesons, but
| >> am going to evade that issue for now. (Was most likely wrong.)
| >>
| >> Alvager et al computed the maximum distance that the gammas
| >> could travel through air before undergoing total extinction to be
| >> approximately 5,000 meters. That extinction distance ultimately
| >> hinges on the electron density in the medium (air in this case).
| >>
| >> They had a lead (Pb) collimator in the gamma path. The ratio of
| >> the density of lead to that of air is:
| >>
| >> 11340 Kg/m^3 / 1.2 Kg/m^3 = 9450/1
| >>
| >> If you divide their 5,000 meter extinction distance (in air) by a
| >> factor
| >> of 9450, you might expect to get a roughly comparable extinction
| >> effect over a distance of 0.53 meters in lead. Their collimator was
| >> about 2.5 meters in length along the path of the gammas.
| >>
| >> I figure that subject should be thoroughly wrung out.
| >
| >The collimator was a closely aligned set of lead bricks with a 5 mm
| >hole drilled all the way through them. The total thickness of the
| >collimator needed to be sufficient to block essentially all radiation
| >not going along the straight-line path of the hole.
| >
| >> >Snip
| >> >
| >> > If extinction effects are, as you would assert, so dominant as to
| >> > invalidate the terrestrial tests of emission theory conducted by
| >> > Bab*** and Bergman (1964) and Beckmann and Mandics (1965) despite
| >> > use of vacuums resulting in path lengths equivalent to microns of air,
| >> > then it is impossible for Sekerin's theories to be valid, since
| >> > extinction would prevent accumulation of variable light speed effects
| >> > over distances greater than a fraction of an AU.
| >> >
| >> In my Ritzian Binary Stars article I estimated the extinction distance
| >> for the Crab Pulsar (as a neutron star binary). I did this by comparing
| >>
| >> the shape of the double peaked light curve my Sekerin-like computer
| >> simulation for variable stars. (I got Sekerin's 90 degree phase error
| >> fixed too!)
| >>
| >> The estimated extinction distance for the Crab Pulsar turned out to
| >> be one fourth the earth-moon distance.
| >>
| >> Please see http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/binarie3.htm
| >> The Crab Pulsar stuff is about 2/3rds the way down on the page.
| >
| >Winter break isn't over, but I need to be going back to school after
| >today. I have too much going on at school, so it's not likely that I
| >will be able to devote any time to study the Crab Nebula problem.
| >During break, I can have fun studying physics and astronomy, but now
| >I have to go back to my real studies.
|
| Ah! the basket weaving therapy group....of course...hop along, dear...
|
| >It's been fun chatting with you. You are by far the most thoughtful
| >of the Ritzian enthusiasts in this group.
|
| And you are one of the most brainwashed relativists here....
|
| >Happy New Year!
|
| What's so happy about it?
| Do you think the state of the world is going to magically improve in 2007?

My sentiments exactly.
Between this perihelion and the next it will bring North Korea and Iran
closer together, India and China further apart, the rest of the west
will look on.
Happy new perihelion for Wednesday, flattery will get you everywhere.
Allah akbar (or something), Saddam Hussein is his profit.
The common fuckwit Tom&Jeery (Minor Crank) doesn't have the
balls to answer me.


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