Re: The relationship between meter, speed of light and c


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Dear kenseto:

On Feb 13, 9:22 am, "kenseto" <kens...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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3. Bases on 2, the meter was REDEFINED as being
the distance covered by light in 1/299,792,458
seconds.

NO....the current defintion for light speed is
derived from the equation:
c= (detected wavelength)(detected frequency)

This is incorrect. It has been incorrect since 1983. You have been
notified it is incorrect more than once since you started spouting
outdated definitions. The correct definition is:
http://www.physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/cuu/Value?c

That is indeed the current definition, but it is
light-defined, if one uses Kenseto's terminology, and
therefore more or less useless for IRT (as the def tacitly
assumes SR -- for good reason, of course).

It is easier to teach a monkey than to teach you. How many time do I
have to
tell you that IRT do not have different definition for light speed???

The current definition of lightspeed is *circular*. Lightspeed is the
distance light travels in a second. Distance is defined by lightspeed.

Hey idiot the postulates for IRT are as follows:
1. The laws of physics based on a clock second and a light-second to measure
length are the same for all observers in all inertial reference frames.
2. The speed of light in free space based on a clock second and a
light-second to measure length has the same mathematical ratio c in all
directions and all inertial frames.
3. The laws of physics based on a defined absolute second and the physical
length of a rod is different in different frames of reference.
4. The one-way speed of light in free space based on a defined absolute
second and the physical length of a measuring rod has a different
mathematical ratio for light speed in different inertial frames. The speed
of light based on a defined absolute second and the physical length of a
measuring rod is a maximum in the rest frame of the E-Matrix.

The #2 postulate is the constant light speed postulate of SR. Notice that it
is based on light-second to measure length.

Therefore for IRT this is useless.

You are an idiot. On one hand you said that SR is very useful and on the
other hand you say that SR is uselesss.

Of course for most other
scientific types this is the rough equivalent of throwing in
the towel and moving on to more interesting problems, such
as what really happens in a Bose-Einstein condensate. :-)

You got your head stuck up your arse.

Ken Seto


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