Re: Some relativity aspects of new physics and astronomy

On 7 mrt, 00:23, bz <bz+...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 6 mrt, 20:34, bz <bz+...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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We don't see the jets because they are produce by the SUN itself!!1

We would see them as GIGANITIC 'permanent' solar flairs leaving the
north and south poles of the sun.

They would be brigher than the sun itself.

Our sun is spherical. No bright jets.

Care to try again?

I hope to make bmyself a little bit more clear with the following
explanation of the migrating black hole.

The NEW migrating Black hole.
All Black holes are supposed to have a thin Fermion repelling horizon
( see above) and as a result, they will produce real atoms, and
attract the resulting gas in the shape of a shell "bouncing" on and
around their horizon. ( see also alternative elementary particle
scheme based on deformed Higgs particles)
However, this gas shell will not be stable in thickness because of
possible massive attractors like stars in the neighbourhood, this
will be the propeller system of the migrating Black hole.

The black holes in those pictures are surrounded by bright clouds of
gas. Where are the bright clouds of gas around our migrating black
holes?

As an example, if a massive star of a binary system explodes and
forms a black hole, then it is proposed (counter intuitive) that the
black hole will migrate away from its partner.
As a result, there will not exist combined binary systems like
Pulsars, with a black hole as one of the partners.
If such a migrating black hole meets a partner, the masses of both
gas tails will come into play.

I don't see any tails around our black holes.

If the gravitational effect between these tails is large enough, then
it is expected that these tails will all of a sudden SWING around and
form a gas BAR in between the two Black holes.
It is supposed that these bars are sometimes still visible in Spiral
Galaxies.

Galaxies are much bigger than solar systems.

The two or even more black holes will start to travel away from each
other, by the electron synchrotron emitting electron jet, which will
start to run if enough gas has been gathered in between these black
holes. ( see Cygnus-A)

There are no signs of syncrotron jets from any black holes anywhere
near the earth. I just went outside and looked.

If there were any such thing that close to us, it would be visible,
even when the sun was up.

The recent comet was visible in the daytime, if you knew where to look.

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please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is
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Well BZ,
Thank you for your interest, you really asked the right questions.
I must admit: I DON'T KNOW .
I only have indications.
Such as, that the sun has a positive charge.

Are you postive of that? What gives you that idea?

Solar flares throw out a lot of strongly ionized particles.
I would suspect that it throws of just about as many electrons as it throws
out He++, H+, and heavier ions, some of which are completely stripped of
their electrons and thus 'carry away' quite a bit of positive charge with
them. What evidence do you have that the sun has a net positive charge?

Or I have suggestions,
That the solar black hole system has not the same scale as Cygnus-A
and not the same ageing, which could be the reason for the lack of
visible lobes as Cygnus A has..

It looks to me, like there is ONE black hole, near the center of Cygnus A,
the remnant of a super nova. It looks a lot like there is a considerable
spherically shaped sphere of 'darker mater', thrown out by the explosion.

It looks to me like there ARE tyncrotron jets of high velocity particles
HITTING that sphere in a couple of places and making it glow very brightly.

It looks like there is some 'wobble' to the jet and the jets have heated up
a couple of spots near the larger hot spots, making pairs of spots on each
side, rather than single spots.

If you put a couple of drops of milk into a glass of water (let the water
stand for a while before you add the milk) and watch the milk spread out,
shine a laser pointer through the cloud of milk, you may see some 'hot
spots' very similar to the dumbell shaped hot spots in those pictures.

Or: That the electron synchrotron jets could emerge not out of the sun
itself, but out of the anti-symmetrical oscillating Higgs vacuum
surrounding the sun.

If they emerge anywhere within 100,000 Au (1.6 Ly) of the sun, we would be
seeing them right now.

But I am convinced that based on Cygnus-A principles, the solar system
should be the remnants of an old open star cluster.

The fact that we have an iron core to our planet says that _we_ are all,
you, me, the guy on the corner, _we_ are all made out of star vomit.

On the other hand, Cygnus-A does NOT seem to me to have anything to do with
double black holes.

http://mamacass.ucsd.edu/people/pblanco/cyga_hi_abs.html

The bright spots are due to the synchrotron jets from one black hole, the
dim radio star midway between the bright lobes in the top picture.

So I suggest that all Open Star clusters have a double black hole

The only way you could have two black holes and a star in a stable system
is if the black holes were orbiting around the star, sitting in the L1 and
L3 lagrange pointshttp://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_mm/ob_techorbit1.htmlof a
three body system.

Any planets that had been part of that system would be thrown out of their
orbits because they would have to follow a plane that passes vertically
through that diagram. The orbits of the black holes would disturb their
orbits.

system as power engine and Globular cluster should be related to the
MASSIVE black hole system surrounding both sides of spiral Galaxies,
and all sides of Elliptical Galaxies.

Show me your evidence. Show me your math.

The rest you will be able to read in my weblog I hope. .

Leo Vuyk.

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Dear BZ,

Before I try to react on the details,
FOR THE POSITIVE CHARGED SUN,
se for instance:
The electric Sun.
http://www.electric-cosmos.org/sun.htm

Leo Vuyk.


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