Re: How to defeat the roundtrip paradox.



On Mar 16, 7:38 pm, "Bill Hobba" <rubb...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
"PD" <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

news:1174052032.314898.220580@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx





On Mar 16, 8:17 am, j...@xxxxxxxx wrote:
On 16 Mar, 14:09, "PD" <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 16, 8:05 am, j...@xxxxxxxx wrote:

On 16 Mar, 13:59, "Eric Gisse" <jowr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mar 16, 3:58 am, j...@xxxxxxxx wrote:

[...]

How old are you?

Old enough to show i am smarter than anyone here.

And just a second ago you were condemning delusions....

PD

It is no delusion what is your IQ

Which IQ? There are several, you know.
And when was your measured last? When you were young?
And do please distinguish "intelligence" from "expertise", as an
extremely intelligent (by some measure) harpist may not have any idea
what she's talking about regarding international finance or chemistry
or chess.

It's not only presumptuous to suppose that one IQ measure performed
years ago would be any indication of your ability to critique anything
well out of your area of expertise, it is also ... well ... stupid.

Yea - IQ is a rather interesting thing. Before mentioning my experience I
would like to say IMHO it is basically useless - Feynman had an IQ of only
128 yet few would doubt his genius categorisation.

Or rather, ONE of the IQ measurements performed of Feynman performed
at one time was 128. At one point, a particular IQ measurement for me
returned 143. Your point is thus made again.

PD

Mine was measured at
primary school at 80 or something like that - cretin level I believe. It
meant I was put into 8Z at high school and when I wanted to do advanced math
at grade 9 and 10 my math teacher had to go into bat for me showing I got
100% in my math tests - in fact I topped all of grade 8. Evidently it was
touch and go but I was allowed to do it. Then in grade 9, due to extreme
laziness on my part, I was doing great at science and math but just passing
English. Some school guidance officer wanted to send me to 'opportunity
school'. My science and math teachers were flabbergasted and found out it
came about when the school guidance officer dredged up my old IQ test on the
urging of my English teacher who felt the disparity between my science and
math marks and English was a concern. First thing my parents did is send me
for a visit to my doctor who at that time had just completed or was about to
complete his studies to be a psychiatrist. Although he could have tested me
he thought it best a go to a child psychiatrist who basically laughed his
head off. He said different people have different abilities and different
types of IQ tests emphasise different things. He could see I was an
abstract mathematical type thinker and gave me an IQ test biased towards
that - I got 151. The latest one I did returned 136.

Bottom line is I suppose IQ tests have their uses - but also can be abused.

Thanks
Bill


.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: How to defeat the roundtrip paradox.
    ... extremely intelligent harpist may not have any idea ... meant I was put into 8Z at high school and when I wanted to do advanced math ... Some school guidance officer wanted to send me to 'opportunity ... urging of my English teacher who felt the disparity between my science and ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Why a Problem?
    ... >the measurements made by our instruments). ... Now let me tell you the origin of this lie. ... And they worship these math ... You, jem, said: ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: The interpretations of SR are physically impossible.
    ... Did you see any math mistakes in what I presented? ... What was shown was what the measurements showed. ... All thinking people know that the relative velocity can not ... At no time do you have any real physical object going ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Incommensurability of Mathematical Logic and Scientific Logic
    ... What often happens is that people are so math orientated that they ... The worth of a model lies entirely in how well the defined hypothetical measurements of the model match up with actual real-world measurements. ... will register 20 degrees Celsius when other real-world devices called clocks register noon. ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)
  • Re: Incommensurability of Mathematical Logic and Scientific Logic
    ... What often happens is that people are so math orientated that they ... The rules man devises about those behaviors are his predictions of future ... actual real-world measurements. ... speculations as to the causes of those observations. ...
    (sci.physics.relativity)