Re: twins versus quanta collapse

Dear beda pietanza:

"beda pietanza" <beda-pietanza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Tell me if the analogy holds:

Twins are generated by black eye fathers and green
eyed mothers (they can be monozycotes or eterozycotes).

Let it be the "green eye" or the "black eye" our
observable variable.

The twins A and B come out and are sealed, each one,
in a closed box, we have to predict the color of the
eyes of twin B by opening the box of twin A and look
at the color of the twin A eyes: we don't know anything
about the genetic laws and about the color of the eyes
of the parents.

By statistically taking track of the outcomes we see
a strong correlation between the color of the eye of
twin A and twin B.

Of course the correlation is preesistent at our
opening the twin box A nevertheless the prediction is
only possible after we open the twin A box not
before.

This is a clear case of hidden variable: the genetic
and the parent eyes.

please comment and help me to swallow a indigest bite.

You invoke a population to obtain your "strong correllation".
You ignore the implication of homo- versus hetero-zygous when you
assume "strong correllation". It will be strong for homozygous,
less so for heterozygous.
Prediction is possible by observing the parents, and no longer
requires opening the box.

You set up slits, you will get diffraction. You set up a
photoelectric arrangement, you get particle behavior.

Maybe the bite requires *you* to change to draw nourishment from
it.

David A. Smith


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