Re: Photon, Momentum, Mass

On May 8, 6:16 pm, Bilge <dubi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 2007-05-08, v...@xxxxxxxxxxxx <v...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On May 7, 11:13 pm, Bilge <dubi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
nOn 2007-05-07, v...@xxxxxxxxxxxx <v...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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John's original statement was, "Put simply if the speed of light is
not dependent on the physical processes taking place in the source
then what physical process is it dependent upon?"

The geometrical argument does not answer the question of why when
light is emitted from a moving source the speed of the source does not

I'm sorry that, after all these years, you are unable to grasp
even the simplest physics. You should find a new hobby rather than
waste your energy pursuing something you are incapable of understanding.

Regardless of what you think about me, John posed a simple question
and the geometrical argument provided by Tom and you does not provide

The answers has been explained to both you and mr. kennaugh numerous
times and in great detail. The fact that you are still asking the same
non-sequitur indicates that you and mr. kennaugh need to find new hobbies.
Neither of you have the capacity for the depth of thought required to
understand the physical basis for the answer. Your comprehension of
physics is so superficial that even the simplest physics eludes your
grasp. Go study on your own for a while. Everyone who has wasted their
efforts on you and mr. kennaugh over the years has exhibited a great
deal more patience than either of you deserve.- Hide quoted text -

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As I am the only person ever to affect a change in how this topic
approached,at least demolishing the wonderful fiction where Albert
dumped 'aether' on Isaac as 'absolute space',allow me to let you into
a real substantial Newtonian maneuver that lurks behind the whole
endeavor.

Compare the statement of Isaac with Kepler -

"That the fixed stars being at rest, the periodic times of the five
primary planets, and (whether of the sun about the earth, or) of the
earth about the sun, are in the sesquiplicate proportion of their mean
distances from the sun." Newton

"The proportion existing between the periodic times of any two planets
is exactly the sesquiplicate proportion of the mean distances of the
orbits, or as generally given,the squares of the periodic times are
proportional to the cubes of the mean distances." Kepler

If anybody cares enough to see where Isaac jumped the tracks then go
straight to Kepler's Panis Quadragesimalis on page 86 which compares
the orbital motion of the Earth with Mars over an 18 year period -

http://mitpress.mit.edu/journals/pdf/POSC_13_1_74_0.pdf

Mathematicians need everything explained to them step by step and get
lost in matters which require intutive intelligence to fill in the
gaps.So,the spirals in the representation represent not only the
plotted positions of Mars against the stellar background but also the
combined orbits of Earth and Mars.Newton thought that the Earth is at
the center and placing the Sun at the center makes the retrogrades go
away hence -

" For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun
they are always seen direct," Newton

Copernicus,Kepler Galileo and any astronomer worth his salt knows
differently -

"Copernicus, by attributing a single annual motion to the earth,
entirely rids the planets of these extremely intricate coils [spiris],
leading the individual planets into their respective orbits
[orbitas],quite bare and very nearly circular. In the period of time
shown in the diagram, Mars traverses one and the same orbit as many
times as the 'garlands' [corollas] you see looped towards the centre,
with one extra, making nine times, while at the same time the Earth
repeats its circle sixteen times " Astronomia Nova 1609

Having buried that enormous feedback loop between the exotic 20th
century science fiction concept and Newton's Principia ,I think it is
time to move on the late 17th century powdered wig.Of course everybody
here wants to protect Isac but his concepts are not supported by
astronomy proper and I am an astronomer















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