Re: Photon, Momentum, Mass



On May 10, 12:52 pm, v...@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
On May 10, 11:10 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On May 10, 7:25 am, v...@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

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No, not because of math, because of the *physical structure* of
spacetime. The fact that this structure does not admit the mechanical
model that you find more appealing, and the fact that you find the
inapplicability of a mechanical model incomprehensible, is not
nature's problem -- it's yours. It is not nature's job to satisfy our
notions of an acceptable model; it is our job to accept models that
accurately represent nature.

You've just made John K's point. Your "geometry" or "physical
structure" of spacetime is not a model at all, it's just a
mathematical abstract.

On the contrary.

The use of the word "model" signifies an
understanding of how something works.

On the contrary. That's what you WANT it to be, perhaps, little gears
and cams and colliding beans. Nature is not so constricted.


BTW, your personification of the term "nature" is just plain stupid.

Well, glad you think you can get nature to conform to your concept of
a model.


Vern


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