Re: O'Barr: Modifications of SR have begun.

On Jun 8, 8:54 pm, "Gerald L. O'Barr" <glob...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
O'Barr: Modifications of SR have begun.

( Please understand: There are no modifications
to be done with SR! But there will be some
important modifications as to what SR
experts will be allowed to say!)

You apparently have a poor choice in SR experts.


Let us list the false teachings of our SR experts:

1) SR experts like to say that in SR, the velocity
of light is a constant, c, in all inertial reference
frames.

Not quite. In *nature*, the velocity of light is MEASURED to be the
same constant, c, in all inertial reference frames.


This statement will have to be changed. It is
physically impossible for any one object, like a
photon, to be going by multiple inertial reference
frames with the exact same relative velocity, when
there are different relative velocities between these
frames.

Two comments:
1. The statement above (that the velocity of light is MEASURED to be
the same constant, c, in all inertial reference frames) is not AT ALL
the same as saying that light will be said from one reference frame to
be going past all other reference frames at c. Do you understand the
difference between these two statements.

2. What is MEASURED to be true in nature is obviously physically
possible. Thus, by measuring it to be the case, we have allowed nature
to demonstrate what is impossible and what is not. We do not get to
decide that for nature. What you may be confused about is how it is
*algrebraically* possible that this happens. You have it in your head
that if some object (a photon or not) is moving at some speed v
relative to some inertial reference frame, and that if another
reference frame is moving at speed u along the same axis relative to
the first frame, then the speed of the object relative to the second
reference frame MUST be (v +/- u). This is the SOLE basis for saying
that SR's claim is impossible. However, your algebraic assumption is
simply WRONG. Nature does not in fact behave that way. The speed of
the object in the second reference frame is instead (v +/- u)/(1 +/-
v*u/c^2). You will note that if the object is a photon and has speed
c, then in ANY other reference frame, the speed of that photon is (c
+/- u)/(1 +/- c*u/c*2) and two lines of arithmetic will tell you this
quantity is c, no matter what u is. Since this result agrees with
experiment, we must conclude that
(v +/- u)/(1 +/- v*u/c^2) is correct and (v +/- u) is INCORRECT,
thereby removing the source of the issue that leads you to think it
impossible.


2) SR experts like to say that SR, as a theory,
cannot allow an absolute reference frame.

This, of course, is an obvious lie. LET proves
that SR math is perfectly at home with an absolute
reference frame concept.

3) SR experts like to say that in SR, everything is
relative.

This is a lie. SR experts do not say this.

I think some have already backed down from
this, so let us just look at the first two points.


PD

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