Re: The velocity of light going pass a moving train.
- From: "Jeckyl" <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:24:29 +1000
"Dono" <sa_ge@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Jun 26, 9:24 pm, "Jeckyl" <n...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Dono" <s...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You're a fool, dodo
If it hits the mirror it hits the mirror.
The light ray cannot be hitting two different places at the same time.
Changing frames does not change whether evens happen or not .. hitting
the
mirror is an event in space time, and is the same event REGARDLESS of
the
frame from which you view it.
You still having difficulty with the problem statement
Not at all. you're having problems with reality
what makes
you think the light strikes the mirror center , i.e. the same point in
both frames?
Because its a single event
You mean is TWO coincident events, right?
No .. a single event ..the light hits the mirror at a given location in
spacetime.
There are two things involved in the event .. the light (photon if you like)
and the mirror.
The intersection of them is a single event though.
I just described them in my
previous post
You need to get things right in order to make a
convincing argument.
I have and did. You've still to recognise when you didn't.
(it does but it isn't obvious).
It is incredibly obvious. It cannot do anything BUT be the same event in
both frames. SR doesn't change whether or not an event happen.
Have you tried the cube problem yet?
Yeup .. its pretty easy .. assuming the camera take the photo when the
object appears to be orthogonally opposite it, then the cube appears
contracted and 'rotated' so that you can see the rear side (how much
depends
on the speed).
Good, much better than your previous BS on this subject.
There was no BS.
So, you looked up the Terrell-Penrose rotation.
Yes , that's the same as what I got when I worked it out myself. It was not
a difficult problem.
Hopefully you understand why
you cannot trust your senses
Yes .. I understand SR very well. You 're getting there as well
and why you can't disnmiss things as
"given" or as you being "told".
You can when they ARE given or told.
When it comes to relativistic effects
you need to produce a solid formal proof.
If you understand SR then you know that events either happen or do not ..
changed the iFoR does not alter that. Perhpas that is something you don't
fully understand, and you are confused because the order of events can
change (when not causally linked).
Of course .. that is unrelated to your nonsense about where the light
strikes the mirror.
I hope it taught you the importance of formal proofs in relativity.
I already understood .. I hope YOU have learnt not to dismiss what others,
who often understand things better than you, have to say.
.
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